Club Arnage

Been busy since return from LM but wanted to get this started whilst i remembered.

Lots of people wanted shirts even at Le Mans, and people still want them now !!

A few of the regular's on the site used a perminant pen to change the date, others just wore the 2004 origional issues with pride.

Some thought a complete change from the design.

Any comments for or against are much appreciatted.


Robbo .

Robbo, I voted for a new front design. I still love the classic version but I think we need a more modern design. Maybe Gulf colours as on the cars in the film or something else...

If two versions were available I think I'd just have to have both... Oh lordy what'll SWMBO say to that then?

???


bill

Whatever, for me.

Although I actually really like the current design and would buy it again with 2006, 2007, 2008 and so on (probably in increasing sizes each year).

It certainly makes fellow CAers quickly and easily recognisable...even if I can't remember their names, or the fact that I met them the previous night!!!

No opinion on the shirts as for design. I liked the previous ones, and regretted not ordering one any sooner for this year. Put my name down for next year, will definitely have one!

Although I allready have a 2006 T shirt, put me down for one as I could do with a spare!!

Very happy with the existing design, agree with smokie it makes seeing other CAers easy, if we need a change could you something with the polo shirt?

Whatever happens i will always have two of everything, so please accept this as my official order, Robbo.  Keep up the good work.  Peter

I'm happy with the existing design, but will go along with the majority.

The only change I would request is that they be made from a material that does not attract alcoholic beverages.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Del

On a slightly different note, how about a mini version of the CA flag which could be flown from car radio aerial, caravan, trailer or whatever.  Anyone else be interested??

Del

I agree, the front remains a fine job and a good identifier when stumbling around before, during and after the Poo bar :P.
Maybe something new on the back for 2006? 

I think there needs to be a small change from year to year (not just the last numeric of the year) so that it's possible to see that you have that years shirt. I agree that the CA logo and stripes are classical and should remain ostensibly the same, perhaps soemthing could be done with the yearly logo?

Having said all that it's very easy to keep the overall apearance VERY Club Arnage and have a different look.

I also agree with Mr Ferrari Spider that I would prefer polo shirts.

As long as they dont look like the ACO's t-shirts I'll be happy :D

Gazza (Ballast)

Still love the front design, could it be tweeked by someone with artistic ability to give it a fresh look, but maintaining the original idea?
Back could do with a complete change, what about the 'Le Mans 200*' logo from the front enlarged and put on the back?

The design is a classic and a trademark CA feature. But I personally think it would look good on pale blue tee, with orange and blue/black stripes, al la Gulf motorsport colours.

It probably wouldn't show the grime so easily either, though it would of course smell similar after a few days. Now who wouldn't want one of those?

Pale blue shirt I agree with but the stripes reflect the French flag and if it wasn't for the French none of us would be there. :'(
Maybe the www. bit on the back could be in red white and blue 8)

I had thought of that Bob. On a pale blue tee, there would be no white stripe without changing the block pattern and adding an extra colour, which probably means more expense.  :( Thus the rear logo should probably be in plain black.

You really are a clever bastard. I never thought of that. So yeh Gulf colours for me.

Ladies and Gents, please keep to the thread, i am hoping this will last until december when the new design is decided upon by you lot.

Cleaned it up for ya Robbo - will try to keep it on topic if that helps... smokie

I'm easy but whats new  :o :o :o

I like the current design, it covers all aspects of what the race etc is all about.
I would however like to see a sticker of sorts that would go on the outside of the motor. Us se7eners have a distinct lack of rear screen space and the front item aint brilliant either so something to stick on the rear panel or wing please.   

I lke the design of the t shirt as it is. A change of colour may be a good idea, pale blue or gery maybe.

Maybe add some more text to the back as well as the web site.


how about a CA GB sticker?

Some were available in 2005 - see about half way down this page http://tinyurl.com/a7mun.

They looked very good, still have them on the car and will take a pic later if I remember.

The big sticker looks good on the back window of my Disco.
It would look even better if I had put the bloody thing on straight ::)

as they are and change the date every year
please

I have a few badges left btw, maybe stick them on aswell? ;)

I'm warming to the idea of the current t-shirt design (with stripes) on a light blue t shirt in a Gulf stylie.

I agree 8)

Like the idea of Gulf racing colours, but have to say the shirt is now instantly recognisable even with beer and food spilt down the front  ::)

True Abs me old china.
However, other than a year change, there's no incentive amongst some potential purchasers to have a new one.
Witness the number of '2004' t-shirts at the 'Poo Bar that were elegantly modified with a marker pen.

I guess there are two seperate issues here.

Firstly, to have a CA t-shirt (of any design or year) so that CA members can recognise other members.

Secondly, to have an annual t-shirt, in the same way that the ACO do (as do Team JPC) I personally choose to buy (at least) a new CA t-shirt each year (well, I have done for two years  ;)) but I do think that if it's just the date change next year I may not bother.

I think the first year, several people bought them to have an identity and they were the first ones readily available in bulk. Now that people have "A" CA shirt, I don't think that many people will buy them from year to year (as was the case this year) Also, having polos, sweatshirts, fleeces etc available as well detracts from a single item.

What would the poo bar photo look like next year with a mixture of white and pale blue t-shirts? I know our own team photo looked wierd as half a dozen of us had white CA t-shirts on whilst others had the black team polo on.

Just food for thought!!

Well the poll at the moment says keep it as it is.

I'm not sure if I'll buy a 2006 shirt.  I have too many Le Mans T-Shirts already.

I personaly prefer NOT to wear 'this' years shirt I think it looks much cooler to were a shirt from the 80s or early 90s.  ;-)    May be there is a market for back dated T-Shirts.  :-)

If we keep the same design then it would  look more 'team' like even if you wear an old shirt.
If we change the design each year or every couple of years then they will IMVHO just start to look like just another  Le Mans T-shirt.

I personaly would like to see the Red White and Blue Stripe remain no matter what the colour or design may be.

Changing the back is OK.   But if people want to add their own stuff  that is the place to do it.

Just my €0.02

t.

Well Robbo, since I was first to kick in with a Gulf colours suggestion and a "change" option, I have been having an other "think" or two.

I still like the idea of a Gulf colours type thingy, but it seems that since the original shirt IS a special thing to us any way how about a slight remodel of the front by enlarging the stripes a little to make them more prominent and the same to the Hu"YEAR"er badge. Just a little tweak maybe.

The stripes could be enhanced to take up as much space on the shirt as the ones on Stevey boy's race jacket...

I dunno, I'll have  the new one anyway, ta!

 ???

Our names on the back, an extra in the price maybe?

Just catching up after being away, I like the idea of the Gulf colours, but what the hell I'll still buy a shirt whatever

Good call there Bill, I didn't have the faintest clue who anyone was this year (being my first poo bar meet) the only person I could be sure I wasn't getting the name wrong was Paddy_NL!!

An idea came to mind - to save explaining exactly who you are when chatting to fellow CA members, how about producing a badge with the CA logo on which we can write/stick our forum/post name?

good Point !

You can buy iron on ink jet prinable iron on transfer kits from W S Smith We used them this year to add a our names and Logo's. Cost a 5.99 for 6 A4 sheets.

Just a passing thought, how about SPEED KILLS? on the front and
So You Want To Die Slowly? on the back?
May all your thoughts be rapid ones.
Cheers, Gerry.

 :( Gerry. Might it not be offensive to the terminally ill and those who have lost loved ones in road accidents?

We are sticking with Robbos originals (2004) and adding extra years as they go by,

What ho Gib me old mucka.

Your comment echo's my earlier post from page 2

The feeling in my waterworks is, unless there is any sigificant changes to a potential 2006 t-shirt, total sales based on the same design but with '2006' will be rather low.

The second most popular poll choice is to have something different on the back, any suggestions?

i quite liked the aston martin theme that some of the shirts sported,  assuming we will still be behind them next year a good quality print on that theme would be good.

names etc i think should left to the idividual, it would additional cost and is a nightmare coordinationg sizes names spellings logo's and the like.

As previously discussed, using a team logo may have copyright implications.

And some people may not support Aston... (our US buddies for instance???)

don't think i mentioned a team logo, nothing wrong using one of our photographs which we have the copyright to.

Totally agree with Smokie, it's a Club Arnage T-shirt, and should not be used to support any particulare team, for those who wish to show their support there are many team T's available, but only one Club Arnage.

If they are the same as this year and last, then none of Team Zarse (including me) will be ordering again. If they were different, say gulf blue etc, it would be a another matter.

no reason why it couldn't be an optional extra, don't see any problem with picture of a car.  after all we are supporting the LM 24 hr race as well.

Prehaps we should ask the designer of the original shirt if he has any ideas as how to freshen up the design, or have a good idea for a totally new one, I know Big H is away at the moment, but prehaps when he comes back to Blighty he could put his excellent design skills to good use.

thought we were putting it out to the membership for input?

That what we are doing, isn't it?

i thought your last suggestion was to go to the designer and cutting out the views of others?  or have i missed read it ;D

The original design was put forward by one of the membership, Big H, on a similar thread to this. Everybody really liked the design and production went ahead. I was just suggesting that Big H might like to contribute to the discussion at some point, when he returns, as his original design had appealed to so many on this forum.

Well, I'm a new member (since LM05). But I'll definitely buy a CA T-shirt. No matter what.

I think it's a great way to recognize other members (like said before in this thread). Makes the party even bigger next year and it's a good way to promote CA. So there will be even more CAers in 2007! And then... world domination!!! (or at least Le Mans domination)

Every option for next year's T has it's good and less good sides... My personal opinion: keep the design the same except for the year.

Like the shirt, its a classic isnt it ?

The rear is boring though, sorry to the designer.

I like Andy Zarce's comment, but does it matter if lots of people keep buying a shirt ?
As long as you have one, thats the important bit surely

I want one please Robbo SPS

Just popped in to say, i am still keeping an eye on this thread ( no puns intended) and will still keep it going until December time when the results may show a clear winner.

Anyone who has ideas for designs for bits / pieces , please post up.

Ok, 40 votes, not bad considering we have 1000 members !

And most years i have sold to 60 - 80 differnet people.



What about a different colour, say a blue, light blue or a bottle green ?

NEW OPTION ADDED


COLOUR ???

Robbo, having voted once, we can't vote again (unlike in some Midlands local elections  ::) )

Question: What shall be the design for 2006
Complete change   7 (17.1%)
Same as 2005 with the 2006 logo   16 (39%)
New front deign   4 (9.8%)
New rear www design   10 (24.4%)
Dont bother   3 (7.3%)
New Colour ?   1 (2.4%)
 
Total Votes: 41


Ok I have re-set the votes i think, so we can all vote again, but the results so fae are above.

 

shall I get my crayon out?

Here's an idea.
 
Gulf colours for the t-shirts have been mentioned a couple of times, I have no problem with this as I think they look pretty cool. The two orange stripes could replace the red and blue we have at the moment.
 With the light blue base colour it would mean the www. thingy on the back could be changed to reflect the French Tricolor which I presume the present stripes on the front represent.
 Instead of the Union Flag on the sleeve I think it would look good If members from other countries could have their own national flag on the sleeve.

If the two extra colours and the choice of flag put 40-50% on to the cost, what the hell, they will still be bloody good value when you consider that the average band tour shirt is gonna set you back 25/30 quid.

I agree with Bob, I've always fancied the light blue Gulf style.

I also stand by my earlier comments.  If the t-shirt remains unchanged except a date, I don't believe they'll be many orders placed.

I agree with you there Steve, I'll get my skates on and water colours out and see what happens.
Fidget seems to concerned about my boring rear, I hope I can put her mind at rest, - in fact, the rear was as suggested by them upstairs, although I've a couple of ideas which should keep 'em happy.
Robbo, are there any cost implications with a coloured or black shirt as background?

I would imagine that all the shirts must be identical, and if you want to customize it with your name/flag/favourite team etc, then it's up to the individual, otherwise it will mean too much farting around for the printers. So maybe the Union Jack should go....
H

...or two choices - one with Union Jack and one without?

Just a thought H as we are in France the French flag?

No good Whitey. It is a CA shirt and it is also worn at Silverstone, Sebring, Nurbergring amongst others, as well as Le Mans. If you put a flag on it for every country it was used in it would soon resemble a boy scout shirt with all the merit badges.

My thoughts
1.Pale blue would be a good choice but keep away from the gulf logo and design, its been done so many times.
2.I think the no flag option may be the best way.
3. Keep it simple as the curent design and you are onto a winner again.

Holy Moly Whitey!- they'll have to prize the crayon from my cold dead hands...

4. And as distinctive and easily recognisable in a crowd.

My thoughts entirely Smokester.
Rusty

Even in the face of Rusty's admirable example and after  all these postings I think Pale "Gulf Blue" and using the stripes with orange instead of Blue and Red. Still having the Club Arnage ® recognisable pattern and the Year logo, as before but 2006 ish... as to badges etc, maybe Robbo could get us the names as a sew-on or summat.

Whatever, I will have one of next years ta Robbo.

Obviously there won't be white bits on a blue shirt unless it comes as an add-on, so no union jacks etc.

I dont mind what design (except i wouldnt buy a "Gulf Arnage" style) but any chance of a female/v neck kinda t-shirt as an alternative to the oversize sack which is favoured by the chaps?

 :-\

And what's wrong with an oversize sack?   ??? :o  :-X


Back to t shirts - I find XXL quite flattering on myself  8)

Cool logo Rusty. 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Is that the 2006 Brethren shirt?

Thanks,
No, that was from 2 years ago, I'll be working on the new one later in the year.
It makes it easy to find the gang when you are blind drunk as it can be spotted miles away.
Rusty

And what's wrong with an oversize sack?   ??? :o  :-X




Hey Steve Brown...here`s a good one for you to Google.

It is increasingly easy to have t shirts printed up.  If the artwork were available we could all have whatever we wanted, but then it wouldn't look the same/be identifyable.

The outfits I've looked at do plain t shirts (both sides), one with coloured sleeves, polo shirts (motif on breast and print on rear) and short sleeved shirts, plus a couple of shaped t shirts for the ladies.

The KKOC design is well advanced

Shaped? - yes like an oversized sack

Hi
Which one of you guys is the Tshirt buyer as I have a pretty reasonable (price) supplier. Leave a message and I will send details, pretty quick and uses Fruit of the Loom (?!) Also I have a good link for producing visuals for the squad.

Martini...
          any time any place.....

As for the question of the car, i think its the Wollek/Stuck Porsche in 1989
(came 3rd)  ???

^^^I would say you're right.

I am usually the buyer / supplier of the shirts?

Mine roll in at £6.50 plus vat, printed ? Although i usually have to add P&P and cover the costs of new screens ?

Hi Robbo I have sent you a message. With abit of luck you can save some money.

Stay lucky.

Martini...
     any time any place etc....

I should get my quote before the 12th of November. Will contact you with the prices from this side. Even though we're in different countries, it will look like we'll be nickles and dimes apart ;)

Our shirts work out E 12,50 including films and vat. So you're cheaper ;)

I think pin stripe suits & bowler hats are quite natty.

Tarquin

oh dear









 ::)

we've done our homework ;D

(http://server2.uploadit.org/files/paddyNL-leeuwshirt2.jpg)

Very tasteful!

Hmmmmm, but he hasn't shown us the back of it yet!!  ;)

here you go, mate ;)

(http://server2.uploadit.org/files/paddyNL-leeuwshirt4.jpg)

Very classy Paddy. Are you going to be selling these? If you are I would like one

I am thinking of it, yes Bob 8)

Might be more than a shirt for LM, that lion is 'adjusted' from the official Dutch Football Association logo, and the Dutch are going to Germany too (I'm not the biggest fan of football though :-\)

Wot, No Aston Martin logo Paddy???  ;D

nope, saving that one for you ;)

Ok, looking through the replies....


1. I cant be bothered to try and re-think all the redisgning bit, it costs dosh, and i dont want to be doing that again.

2. The rear needs updating - Agreed. Ideas from people would be good.

3. My idea for a colour change, HOME and AWAY ?? Home being the white shirt, and away , Yellow, Green or light blue ?

4. We will never sell the amounts we previously did, as most die hards have a few already, but they should be popular ??

how about a DfH/RfH style rear panel with the logo of all the sub groups of club arnage printed.....?

Not such a bad idea, Brad! I could give it a try as soon as I get back in the office, because of the truck-prints I have quite a few logos :)

Will be a pretty large list though :-\

can anybody help me with that list?

Team Zarse
Bobblehat Racing
Team JPC
Liverpool Boys
Porsche Curve Pirates
Kent Kanterbräu
Team Beermountain
Drinking for Holland
the Bretheren
Rhino Racing
SelfPreservationSociety
LeMansZone
Popemobile
...

Hhhh hhhhh

East Anglian Cobras

Hmm, (http://dfh.vandijkonline.net/images/smiles/doh.gif)

I just knew I'd raise a few (http://dfh.vandijkonline.net/images/smiles/icon_naughty.gif) with that question... ::)

sorry chaps (http://dfh.vandijkonline.net/images/smiles/icon_redface.gif) keep 'em coming though (http://dfh.vandijkonline.net/images/smiles/icon_thumbsup.gif)

We would be honoured to have smithytours.co.uk on there.

Hi Paddy, Don't forget   "Pantyspider Tours"  You already have the logo

Well, here's the first attempt. Let's see what you think :)

Not all logos are perfect, most logo's came to me in jpeg or something simular :-\

First class Paddy, when do you want orders?

I like it ! I like it !  8) 8) 8) 8)

I think that looks awsome.

logo suggestion

TURN10 Sebring

TeamImpala

Yes please Paddy 8)

Ready for Sebring ????????

Couple of things>>

• I think this is Robbo's thing, he has his connections and addresses. I only offered to help with the design, not trying to take over. Robbo's shirt man is cheaper and he doesn't have to send the majority of the shirts abroad. Of course I can help Robbo with the adjusted design when the decision is made.
• I do not have all logos in eps-form, to get them all properly done will take some work but can be done. Speaking of wich, it doesn't nescerarily have to be logos - it could also simply be a list of names
• The list is incomplete. Can more people please help getting the list together.

The list so far>>
Team Zarse
Bobblehat Racing
Team JPC
Liverpool Boys
Porsche Curve Pirates
Kent Kanterbräu
Team Beermountain
Drinking for Holland
the Brethren
Rhino Racing
SelfPreservationSociety
LeMansZone
Popemobile
Pantyspider Tours
smithytours
East Anglian Cobras
Team Catchpole
Booze 'n Tabs
Sebring Turn 10
Gulp Racing
...

???

I really dont mind paddy if you want to crack on. Yes i can get them cheaper, but would need to approach them with a new design for the rear ? And find what the cost would be, and how on earth it would be done.

I'll ask over the next few days if they can do it for simular money.

I was getting to the point that posting was becoming a nightmare.

Hopefully it would just be a single colour print and therefore only one screen again so hopefully wouldn't be too different?


Depending on if Robbo has the space for taking them over, maybe it would be easier if we all collected our shirts from Robbo's campiste at Le Mans. I think if Robbo goes to the effort of getting the shirts printed the least we can do is go and visit him to collect them and thank him personally (and make his life a lot easier!!)

A nice one Paddy. If it goes ahead we will all be having one (even if we are not there :'()

You what? The founder of the 24 minutes will not be there himself? :o

Yes, a single colour should be cheaper, but beware of the maximum size (I've been told somewhere 30 x 40 cms).

Don't forget the cold beer for Robbo! ;D
in your case the Tropicoma, Mark!

The last time I took cold beers to Robbo's site was the football in 2004 and he swore at me for doing so!!!  :o  ;D

We did have more beer than we could drink......

Bit of a girlie reply really.

But JP's idea sounds god. I will be taking the design in the printers tomorow, to see what the idea is.

I don't have a team name for the Hall of Fame...  :'(

I don't have a team either...just me 'n' Mark

Its so sad being a moderator.  BUT... me n Mark is quite a catchy name, i'd stick with it.

...but Mark may not be coming in 2006! (Caravanning was somewhat sub-standard for him, I can't imagine how he will deal with a tent...)

Mark, didn't strike me as a fuss pot, a beer, a pool and some sun, what more do you need at LM?

Team MnM ???  :)

or for team Smokie and Mark it could be:

Team S&M !!!!!!!!!!   ;D

Could you add us?  Flying Pig Racing

We don't have a logo - it's still in production......!! 

Cheers

Piglet. 

Ok, spoke to the printers.

If Paddy can send me a high resolution file, either Jpeg or ??? then she can make up the screen.

ITs £10 per new screen plus vat and for up to 50 shirts, £6.50 plus vat each.

For over 100 its £5 plus vat.

We can get a value weight shift ( ie really thin ) thats cheaper.

Just let me know ?

We may have to worry about the camp permits later ( bloominACO ! )

Excellent work my man! 8)
I wouldn't mind if the weight of the shirt was heavier, but will go with the masses.
What I can do is make a .pdf-file (acrobat reader, good enough) and send it to you.
I'll work on a new layout tomorrow in the office.
What I need is the maximum size to work in.

The list so far>>
Team Zarse
Bobblehat Racing
Team JPC
Liverpool Boys
Porsche Curve Pirates
Kent Kanterbräu
Team Beermountain
Drinking for Holland
the Brethren
Rhino Racing
SelfPreservationSociety
LeMansZone
Popemobile
Pantyspider Tours
smithytours
East Anglian Cobras
Team Catchpole
Booze 'n Tabs
Sebring Turn 10
Gulp Racing
Flying Pig Racing

PLEASE CAN SOMEBODY DOUBLECHECK LIST!!

all these to go on this>>

I vote for the heavier weight t shirt too - more durable and capable of withstanding a high speed run in an open top car  ;D

I'm with Mr Brown, also, being a heavier weight of material it will withstand more washes to get the stains out of 8)

I would prefer the heavy weight shirt too.

Paddy could you add 'Team Nordic 1980-2006' as well if possible?

And Team Martini and the Lamb BBQ Gang Next to Nordic And his Gang on a Sunny Day in June, Only Joking but I would like one or two, (about time too), will there be room for personalisation on the back?
Would prefer heavier weight with more room at the front! No six pack when a keg will do.

Martini...any time any place any shirt

paddy

the printer lay asked for a high resolution jpeg, so i have no idea what the difference is with the PDF ??

If there is anyone techy, please say now, and help me out.

The maximim width for the screen is the sie of the union jack on my firms shirts, which means :

Height : 40 cms
Width 30 cms.

These sizes maybe a struggle with the small shirts...

If people could put an idea of how many shirts they would want it will asist me with the final cost. I have to order as many as poss to get the prices down.

High-res jpeg is probably good enough, even though it's gonna be a larger file than a PDF.
PDF is more for printing-shops. It's a free programme by Adobe (well, the reader-version is), and exchangable with programmes like Illustrator and Photoshop.
Building up the backprint in jpeg will make life easier for me though, will save me some time re-digitizing some logos :)

That confirms what I suggested earlier. Good format to work on.

Last two questions:

• I think we have to work carefully on that list of teams, are there teams to delete from list? Are there still teams to add? Can smokie or Amazing help me with the Turn10-logo?
• What's my deadline? I understood some people would like their shirt before Sebring if poss, that's March 18.

Making a deadline for the final version of the backpatch means there has to be a deadline (an earlier one!) for the team-list. :)

2 x XXL for me please, heabyweight. In time for Sebring would be great, I'm sure we will be able to deliver a number by hand...

Turn 10 must have some official artwork for the car stickers and key fobs. If Randy can't produce, I may be able to knock up a good replica...

Lee Self is the one to speak to about TURN10 art,being he is the only one in TURN10 that knows anything about art. LOL ;D

I'd like to add the YFDS (yourfavoritedriversucks.com) Logo, please.

Just let me know where to send the artwork and the bribe.

:cheers:

(A Sebring delivery would be brilliant).

Heavier weight if poss please.

We will be up for 4 please

Andy

Hi Robbo

2 XL for me please, not going this year due to family commitments but would still love the shirt

Cheers

Whitey

Team TickleThe Dragon are on the shirt but not on the list...
Could you add us to the list please Paddy...

And add an order for 1 Large shirt...

Thanks

Put me down for 2 XXL and an XXXL.

I'll have my normal 4 x  XL please.  Anything else to be produced?  Fleece's, Hats?

2 XL please.

I guess it's about time I got one of these famous t's. 

1 x small for me please. 

"1 x small for me please."

I bet there aren't many requests for Small...

2 x L here please.

I presume that you don't intend to wear it then ;D
Rusty

Just the one Doris?  It'll never last a week, push the boat out get a couple at least. :o :o :'( ;D :D

I could probably persuade a few of our team to don said t-shirt for the Saturday night carnage. I'll let you know numbers later, but they will all be XXL.

Rusty

Paddy, should we order teamwise for our group. I know you and I will want one or two, but what for the rest, new topic on DFH forum? Or will we just print the extra's ourselfs?

Haven't looked at this thread for a while and didn't realise that thinge had moved on so much. Way to go Paddy_NL the artwork looks great!

Shed Crew Racing haven't got a logo and I gess it's too late to be included in the list now but never mind.

2 x Medium for us please (maybe a couple more when I've spoken to others) and a preference for heavier weight cotton also but like Paddy happy to go with the majority.

Sorry.  Obviously not thinking.   ::)

Robbo - you better get me three.  It's going to be a messy year.   ;)

Doris, Robbo had some very nice polo shirts made as well, there may be some left?  and how about a Club Arnage flag as well?  Everything a well dressed young lady about LM needs :D

I see you r going to the Classic, have you booked the track laps yet?

Are there no shoes?  Everyone knows how young ladies like their shoes.   :D

Robbo if you have any of those polo shirts left could I have one please?  And a flag. In for a penny and all that...


How?  Do tell and I'll get it sorted asap!

Please let me know if there are flags. I might need a bigger flagpole

Are we talking T shirts or polo shirts/rugby shirts etc etc

Two xxl for me thanks, but would also be interested in Polo shirts, will this be the new design?

Are you doing anything for the Classic? Perhaps a 'Classic' style 'T' shirt, Gulf colours perhaps?

If you are put me down for that as well. Perhaps it should be a different/new thread.


Martini...lucky to go to both,

Opened a topic.....

you can borrow one of ours if needed, we have two :)

Sorry, national pride - and size isn't everything - I'll need at least three, but thanks for the offer.  I'm more concerned about the Radio Free Maison Blanche transmitter mast.

I remember last year we had to order flags (and shirts) at Robbo's site, and pay via PayPal for Robbo to generate enough cashflow to be able to place the order with the printer. I don't think it will be very different this year.

To be honest I think the following might be a way to do it:
•Front of shirt will stay as it is, only '06 instead of '05/'04
•I will try and complete design for the rear first half of next week.
•Then we debate okay/not okay & adjustments within a time limit (3 weeks?)
•Then we order and pay Robbo before a set date (before half Feb.?)

Does that sound acceptable, RobboSPS?

Paddy, I think your question is aimed at Robbo, for him to collect the money again?

However i'm very happy to pay this way again, if that is what is intended, no pay no order.  Peter

Cheers mate!!

I'm all for money up front, Robbo etc isn't wasting his time otherwise.  These things are always a nightmare.  Put me down for a couple more at XL, (5 in all)) but wait for report of Xmas excesses, we may have to put them all up a size.  I'd appreciate an estimate first, and would prefer the thicker polo shirt, as I nearly lost a lot of skin last year.  Don''t believe me till you see the cash.

And a flag please

That reminds me, I must pay for the tickets.

I used to be a member of the Institute of Credit Management - did they blackball me?

More than happy to pay up front, probably the only way to do it.
I have been caught out before by someone saying yes to something then not paying up.

Andy

Agreed on the money front. Robbo does a lot for no reward and I remember in 2004 him telling me about late payments, bouncing cheques etc.. It's a wonder he carried on this fine effort for 2005.

For his sanity it HAS to be the only way.

GAB wants me to collect a Large for him, for delivery at Sebring. I'll pay. So my order is 2 x XXL and 1 x L.

Thanks

I thought you were all Piss Artists!!!!!


I would like 2 Heavy weight XL shirts next year please Robbo!

OK oK

Heavier Weight shirts as we have alwys had, not cheap crud.


Yes as always its payment first ( if there was ever a problem, do as people have before and complain to my boss !! )

For sebring people its going to have to be a payment forst open.

£10 per shirt seems a sensible cost.


I see people going on about rugby shirts etc.

If there is something you really want let me know, the printers have the design, so its a case of fabric colour and lettering colour.

As for flags.

I will mail the guy again - Graham, but i think the minimum order was 30 so we would need 30 souls to buy them.

Robbo is there a chance of some more large reflective stickers. I still have one from last year on my car but it would be nice to have one that has been put on level ::)

No problem mate. ;D

guess I'm a little late to this party...

I've just fired off art to paddy, directly...
sent it to him in three formats...

(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/SebringT10_sm.jpg)

is there anybody else I should send it to???

-Lee

That's fine Lee! Paddy will take care of the lay-out of the shirt in accordance to club arnage standards. After that he will send the file to Robbo. He takes care of orders and printing.

Those SPS-stickers were mine ;) Just let me know what you want, I'll make it.

Paddy, I meant the Club Arnage stickers

okido ::)

OK, I'm going to throw a spanner in the works here!!!

There is only a maximum size that can be printed on the back of a t-shirt. (40cm x 30cm)
I like the RfH style of CA team names as the design.

However, the more team names that want to appear on the back of the CA t-shirts means that the boxes will get smaller and smaller to the extent that you will not be abelt o read them. I believe so far there are about 27 teams that mean each box would only be about 4cm high by 10cm wide. That's if indded the black and white print area is stand alone and it doesn't include the text above in which case the boxes would be so small you wouldn't be able to read them at all. There is of a maximum size to the back of a t-shirt for everything on it..

Therefore, to make them legible, it makes sense to limit the number of boxes. How this is done is the big debate.

I may be well off track here, but as far as I'm aware, The Porsche Curve Pirates and the Popemobile do not frequent this forum?? Should they be included.

Similarly, there are names on there that do frequent the forum but don't necessarily buy the t-shirts (only Robbo would know this) Should they be included.

Several people have said that unless there is a significant change they wouldn't be buying one this year. Should those people be expected to say yes or no to the design before including them in it if they aren't going to purchase this years' model?

Just thought I'd set the cat amongst the pidgeons for a bit of lively CA debate!!  ;)

So thats about and inch and three quarters by four.  It will probably look confused on a coloured background.  What colour were we having?  I don't think that T shirt printing is that detailed.

Paddy, does it look like we'll get away with it or not? and let me be the first to say Gelukkige Kerstmis

I am sure i can get the stickers, but maybe as PAddy runs a vinyl printing company, he would like the extra business ??

He maybe able to source the kit cheaper ?

Paddy - If you like i'll e-mail the fonts etc over.

Mark, you are right, although at least one member of most of these teasm posts up. Most have bought a shirt at some time,

The rough number so far is about 40 shirts. I said last year i would order an extra 10 to sell on the site, so many people wanted more when in france.

My question is :

Who is Team Impala , Smithy Tours , Team Cannonball , PAnty Spider  ??

Robbo I'll have a new t-shirt if I haven't ordered one already. The Ninja Penguins won't need to be on the t-shirt on account of the fact that it's a crap name and I don't think we really exist any more.

Anyway, surely it's a form of sponsorship so those teams appearing should be paying for us to wear them for free!

Mark, you are right, although at least one member of most of these teasm posts up. Most have bought a shirt at some time,

The rough number so far is about 40 shirts. I said last year i would order an extra 10 to sell on the site, so many people wanted more when in france.

My question is :

Who is Team Impala , Smithy Tours , Team Cannonball , PAnty Spider  ??

Team Impala is Amazing Randy's Team. Spotted Signing team photo's at Sebring in 05.

Pantyspider Tours is the name our merry bunch of men give ourselves. I am the only one that posts here so I agree that we may not qualify to have our name on the shirt. Saying that it would not stop be buying one or two just because our name is not on it

 :-X

I didn't find the time today, tomorrow night I will be in the office and will have time to make the setup with all the names involved. JPC is very right though, 28 teams is an awfull lot to fit on such a small space. Maybe we'll end up simply 'typing' the names if that is going to be clearer to read. Of course it would be nicer to have all logo's and I will certainly give that a try.

Bytheway Robbo>> you can add another 10 shirts or so for all Dutchies wanting a shirt as well :) I will let you know definite number & sizes come ordering date.

Thanks mate, merry Christmas to you -all- too! :)

Dan Lowe may wish to have www.24hourlemons.co.uk on there somewhere??

I would like to have www.24-lemans.com but I have not got it hosted at the moment and think that it is a bit unfair to have an un-hosted web advertised.

we could put your slogan on, Rick - everybody knows that's you! ;D

Would you consider having the McQueen 2 fingers image as a back print on the 2006 T-shirt? I'm sure I could get permission from Chad McQueen (son of steve) and Nigel Snowden (photographer).

GF

I'll throw in another spanner!!

I will have 10 shirts WITHOUT the logos on the back.  No disrespect to any of the 'teams', but as Mark says, things are getting out of hand and the shirt is going to look very messy.

If we could just have the two-fingured salute, it would suit me. 

If we can't have shirts without all the logos, I don't want any - we'll do our own thing.

Del

By all means pull our name off the shirt if you are having space issues, i understand that we are the newbies.

Andy

Ditto.  There will only be 4 Team YFDS respresentatives there, so it certainly seems unfair to limit the logo size of the bigger crews that make it every year.

Consider us scratched, sirs!  :)

Bob, Andy, Chop

I hope I haven't offeneded or upset anyone with my post. It certainly wasn't intended that way.

There are many "groups" included above that consist of only one or two people, let alone 4. Obviously some groups are bigger, but certainly not all.

Some have posted in the past but are no longer active. Some always do their own shirts so don't buy CA ones. Others are regulars on the Maison Blanche campsite but don't contribute to the forum. There are also many regulars on the forum, who also buy t-shirts, but don't have a group name.

My own group, Team JPC, was 26 strong last year. This year we are going to be between 14 and 20. 4 of us are regular posters on the forum and a couple of others lurk. But I think we only bought 6 t-shirts last year as we also do our own team shirts. In 2004. Steve Brown's group, The East Anglian Cobras bought 20 shirts, and he is the only regular from his group on the forum. Rhino Racing are only two people, but they both post regularly and both buy the shirts.

I would say that if you are posting on the forum and intend to buy shirts then you should have a valid call for inclusion, subject to space, however if you haven't bought them in the past and don't intend to buy any shirts this year (and I'm sure there's a few groups named who don't) then I don't think they should be included. I think it's interesting that people like yourselves, who do read the forum regularly and post and I would assume intend to buy shirts have responded, and yet the the groups I particularly referred to in my original message haven't (mainly because they don't frequent the forum regularly, if at all, and never buy shirts)

No offence taken,

We also produce our own polo shirts each year. We normaly have about 10 in our group, like all groups it goes up and down each year due to commitments etc. and there is only 4 of us this year. We are also one of those groups that prefer our creature comforts and stay in the city centre, so don't get to see much of the antics on the various camp sites. We are planning making the "poo" bar event this year where ever it may be and meeting up with some of you all to put faces to names.

Andy

No offence taken Mark. The rest of my bunch take no active part in CA and as far as I know have never even logged on as a lurker. I left them to do their own thing while I went off to the poo bar last year. To be honest all apart from one of them (who drives up from Southern Spain every year) only see Le Mans as a weekend piss up away from the wife. I have had some great times at various CA planning meetings and have met some wonderful people at these and at different races so will continue to buy the shirt  wether our group name  is on it or not.

I'm considering not going to the race now.  :'(










 ;D

I'd considered this potential problem before, and hesitated e-mailing the artwork for exactly that reason.  I wasn't going to mention anything about it until someone confirmed my suspicions that space would eventually become an issue.  I still intend to buy a shirt or three, as the inclusion of our logo was never a make-or-break deal.

Not a problem, Sir!

Cheers!

Great idea, I would definatley be intrested in 2006 shirts if that was on the back.

Ditto what's been said already......there are only around 6 of us. a couple of them lurk but mainly they don't particpate.  I could probably flog six or so shirts if I tried hard as we also have our own team shirts.

I guess the point is we are already "team" club arnage so do we need anything more personalised? 

Robbo, if the new 2006 shirt has the McQueen image on it I will have at least one and maybe another.

No need IMO for other images, that would be a big enough change style-wise I think.

 :)

Very good point, the 'club arnage' bit is the important part. .

It would be great to feature the names of the groups that do go, but at the end of the day it's not that important if we cant put them on. Lets see what paddy comes up with before we decide.

I have 10 in my group this year, 2 others post on this site from time to time. I don't now how many would be interested in CA T shirts but I guess it would be about 5, it's hard enough getting the money for the tickets out of them before xmas.

I also like the idea to put the Mc Queen image on the back instead of the team names. But will go with the flow if team names are what people would like. This is however a forum t-shirt and in that aspect I think people who post here will get one or two anyway. I don't think that we will get more then 10 shirts in our group of 35, simply because the people who wan't one also post here.

Teams will have their own shirts anyway, so as far as I am concerned you can skip the team names paddy, we can put them on our truck again! payed in beer ofcourse. ;D

To be honest I quite like the idea of Steve on the back as well! :P

But here's the shirt anyway, just written words though. It might all get a little too detailed with logo's added :-\

(http://premium1.uploadit.org/paddyNL//CAshirt2.jpg)

Nice effort Paddy, looks very good, as always. But also very busy with all the names on it. I am affraid people won't be able to read it.

For what it's worth, I think that looks great. As chop said, YFDS on the shirt is not a make or break for us. We'll buy a few either way.

I like the idea of Steve on the back ordering two more beers!  :)

Ok. The design has got too much.

I like the idea of the McQueen print on the rear with the top and bottom Arnage logo's.

The fairest way maybe to put the rear on the shift.

From my group 5 post in and around the weekend, but only 1 post all year through.

I'll speak with the printers again about the McQueen image.

Can anyone do a high res bitmap or JPEG version and e-mail them to me ??

 Hi Robbo,
                Thanks to Grand Formage I too like the idea of "Steve ordering 2 beers" on the back. Put me down for one XL.
Pale Blue like this page would be another idea if you want a change from white.
JPC thanks for getting this discussion moving.
Canada Phil

Ohh now that's a dilemma - the design does look pretty good with the team names on it but I also like the two fingered salute (we have the print at the top of our stairs!).   

I'm happy to go with the flow, i'll have a couple of shirts for me and once we've got a set design I'll try and flog a few to the others.

Piglet, you know I'll buy a T-shirt off you.

Here's a slight change to the front hope you can see it.

http://server2.uploadit.org/files/Martini27-CATshirt.jpg


martini...

I like that, very good.

Well, that looks like the shirt for me, Martini's front with the "two beers for Steve" on the back. I'll have one o them please...

Forget the Gulf thing, don't know what I was thinking of with that one.


 :D

bill

I know it has been suggested but how about this for the back with the mono (black) pic and the Gulf colours highlighted. The background has been cut-out, which looks better than the mugg background also space at the top to put your name.

I think the fromt and back should retain the Gulf colours. Only a suggestion but remember there is only 160+ days to go!

Martini...one I made earlier

RS2Babe is going to have a hell of a time changing the date on that witha  magic marker ;D ;D
Canada Phil

I seem to have lost track of this thread.Just tell me where to send the money!
I do like Martinis though with the 2006 on it

PM

PM

Just waiting for someone ? To send me a High res version of the rear for taking to the printers, and why not put Martini's front on, its new and differnet.

The older shirts will also show up those from previous years, like the draw full i have !!

Am I being dim - is there a link to this somewhere?  Yours stupidly - Piglet

Sorry I forgot the link, I think, but it was v late last night, Is there a copyright on the pic? Does anyone have a good quality image? the one I used was pretty low resolution and would not blow up to shirt size.

http://premium1.uploadit.org/Martini27//TCABack.jpg

I like Martinis new design, together with 2 beers please on the back, but can we keep the Union jack on the sleeve please.

Robbo, looks like Martini's front and back but WITH the union jack sleeve then.

Has to be time to close this soon I would have thought

Hi all

I have put my two offerings together because I think there should be a majority on whatever is produced, not offended if you choose something else (I am a newbie after all), or improve on mine.

I do however have a couple of queries - most importantly is there a copyright on the pic?
Does anyone have a good quality image? The one I used was pretty low resolution and would not blow up to shirt size.

I also think the front and back should retain the Gulf colours.

The suggestion to use 'Two Pints' works well but how about this for the back with the mono (black) pic and the Gulf colours highlighted.

The background has been cut-out, which looks better than the muggy background also space at the top to put your name.

It is also worth Robbo checking with the printer regarding the cost as the colours may have to be doctored.


http://server2.uploadit.org/files/Martini27-CATshirt.jpg

http://premium1.uploadit.org/Martini27//CATLM06.jpg

Regards

Martini..sometime, someplace, somewhere

Hi,
Yes, I too like Martini's shirt. Front looks great and is a nice change, the back looks fab with Steve on the back. Like the grey scale print but with the stripes in colour idea. Also agree that we should keep the union jack on the shoulder.

I am sure my group would probably buy 5 of these.

I'll go along with Martini's idea in principle - but nowhere does it actually say 'Le Mans' like it did on the previous shirts. Would it be possible to print this over the right tit?

I LIKE the Gulf colours, but extra colours = extra cost.  Up to Robbo to find out how much.

I'll have 10 of them.

Del

Good spot DelBoy, forgot the most important part.

Revised front here  http://premium1.uploadit.org/Martini27//CATLM06.jpg


Martini...

Couldn't get the link to work - unless your revised effort is a little square with a red cross in it!!

Del

Got it now - had to cut and paste the link somewhere else for it to work.

The revised front is OK by me - with '2 pints' on the back it will be excellent.

Del

It won't work for me

Lorry

Select the link, copy it and paste it to a blank WORD document, then click on it within WORD.  Don't know why it works this way but it does for me.

Del

Sorry guys if you are on dial-up it may be loading, when you think it will not open, as the file is quite large, so that it can be viewed better. I can send you a Pdf if you want.

Martini...

If you guys don't mind, I would like to have a Dutch flag on the sleeve then!! Nothing against the UK, just not my country. Or maybe the european stars would be an idea???

Not sure about that Knetter, I would like the Guernsey flag as I am not English (not my country either) or Dutch and not in the EU as Guernsey is only an 'associate' member and not a full member!

This also means we cannot work in the EU either.

Personally I do not mind which madge you have ...Is there a chance of perhaps having sew on badges or possibly cheaper the iron on sort?

Martini...any badge, any place, any where

EU flag ??? Save that  for the caravanners. I'm f**k*ng English.
Rusty ;)

I'll F### anything with a skirt within reason ! LOL ;D

Martini's version looks good to me.

Martini, I have the Steve McQeen on digital file, measures 41mb - used it for this>>

(http://server3.uploadit.org/files/knetter-steveopsteigerklein.jpg)

Can you use that?

Hi Paddy

Paddy - Gelukkig Nieuw Jaar and a happy New Year to the rest of you.

Quote - 'I have the Steve McQeen on digital file, measures 41mb'

Probably a bit too big to post normally (thats an exageration), can you put it somewhere as a file which I can collect, perhaps where you put your avatar (bloody strange word that) best if you can save it as a Tiff or an EPS and as large as possible.

Regards

Martini...

Martin, same to you! ;D

I have sent you an email of 3MB. See if you can work with that one.

OK - I don't know about anyone else but I'm getting a bit bored with this (OK OK I have a short attention span I know ;D)

Shall I propose we adopt Martini's 2006 front and the "two beers" back (subject to GF being able to deal with the copyright issue?) 

Anyone second the motion?? (no toilet jokes please  ;D)

Any objections?? 

Or are we going to go through the pain of another poll - sometimes I think democracy is overrated!! 

Agreed.

(http://www.cartoonstock.com/lowres/jmo1374l.jpg)

Agreed

Piglet,

I'm with you, however, some may not be.

Shall we have a vote on it ?

Who agrees, who doesn't and who does, but with some minor changes ?

I agree

Lets just do it.

As for the flag, forget it, a St George's cross won't show, and if it does you'll look like something out of MASH 4077.  In addition, I'm from the Isle of Sheppey, which was part of Holland when I was born  (sorry about the bad news Paddy/Knetter etc but I had to come out eventually)

I agree with the front and back design, but I still think the Union Jack on the sleeve should be retained.
If I was a foreign member of a Drinking for Holland or Turn 10 website and I was buying a shirt, I would accept that the Dutch flag or the Stars and Stripes would be on the shirt as a majority of members of these web sites are of Dutch or American nationality respectively.
As the majority of members of Club Arnage are British, I think the Union Jack should remain.

Personally I'm happy without the Union Flag - the internet is a world wide structure and it seems sensible to me that we have no flag rather than argue the toss about it for longer.   

The dreadful compromise would be the Euro Stars and how many of us would like that!!!    :o

Calm down, calm down, calm down.

I suggest that Robbo gets in touch with everyone that normally buys the shirts (if possible, sorry Robbo) and gets a vote from them.
I would also suggest that the cost be sorted first, bearing in mind the design I have done involves 3 colours both sides. There may even be the option, dare I say it, of some having shirts without the back and saving money. Or perhaps just have the back as black cut-out without the colour stripes. Although a couple of quid is not too much to worry about.

Please bear in mind that the illustrations on the front and back may not look exactly like my visuals as I am not sure of the exact print areas.

If there is going to be a vote I think Robbo should put the list together and then everyone sings from the same sheet. for some to have badges and some not will be a little silly (being polite).

PS If you throw out my idea altogether no offence taken (can I have a French flag on mine?)

PPS...Should I do some more designs??! (this was a joke but I don't mind)

Martini...allez les Bleus

I'll go along with the proposal, with or without the Union flag.

Del

Righty ho.  I've booked my flight for Sebring now and would very much like to parade down the Midway in my new 2006 CA t-shirt.

Therefore, flag or no flag, I'm happy as Larry.

Looks all very splediforous, I'll have my normal 4 x  XL please ASAP, when do we pay?

No worries, I think we can pass as Brits just as easy! We'll just be drinking better beer!!!

As GAB said to me earlier today (in another context...)

Just Do It!

:)

I'm not trying to stage a takeover on this - Robbo does a sterling job of the T-shirt (and flag) sorting.  It just strikes me that democracy has run its course here and decision making by committee is never dreadfully effective!! 

Sebring is only six weeks away so now is the time for decisions and Robbo's too nice to enforce his will on the rest of you rabble!!   ;D

look this vote thing...

Way OTT, the new version while true to Robbos original with detail differences, is cool for me. But if Robbo wants to stay with the original, OK I'll have one in XL please Robbo. Whatever!  ::)

I'll go for that, I said all along I was not fussed if another, or even the original, design was used.

Wil we have them before Sebring? If not I wouldn't mind last years.

Martini...any shirt, any place, anywhere.

Hi everyone. Family problems keep me away for a few days.

I like Martini's idea,

So if someone can get me a proof copy i'll see the printers asap.

I would like to keep the Union Jack flag though.

ANd it was Big H's design, not mine.

I am Impressed, A Desision at last. thank you Robbo, and by the way, your post was very honourable with the Credit for the designer. Top man.
Barrys hunch was on the flag and good points made on opinion.
If the poll was genuine give us the results Please, who ever endorsed it.
When Drinking for Holland get theirs they will say we will put a better flag on the sleeve. (Hows that Knetter and Paddy? Like the Beer saying)

Martini's Front and Back with the Union Flag on the slee4ve gets my vote. Keeps it very close to the original (i.e. stripes, flag, CA logo, Le Mans/year) but with a noticable difference.

I personally think more people will go for this compared to the number of t-shirts bought last year.

One XL, please.

Just lemmy know who/when/how to pay! (PayPal?)

Six weeks, indeed.  :)

Lets do it, especially as Sebring is not so far away (he says sick as a parrott)

Plus, unless you're keen on washing, you can always buy more than one.  Though someone must bring a washing machine?

So thats 2 xxl and one xxxl unless the sizing's generous

So there's a democratic agreement! (http://dfh.vandijkonline.net/images/smiles/icon_woohoo.gif)

Would it be nice to have the url underneath the picture? (http://dfh.vandijkonline.net/images/smiles/icon_naughty.gif)

Oi don't start - we've agreed and that's that!!!!   They can blooming use Google like everyone else does  ;D

Hi Robbo

Did you get my mail?

Martini...

Hope Grand Fromage has already secured permission to use the "2 beers" photo.
The following from a news release by Grand Am following Test days at Daytona.
"On Saturday, No. 73 Tafel Racing Porsche GT3 driver Chad McQueen was injured in a collision with the barrier exiting the chicane at the end of the Daytona Superstretch. McQueen was awake following the incident, and was transported to Halifax Medical Center where he is currently in intensive care in serious condition. McQueen was co-driving the No. 73 machine at Daytona Test Days with Jim Tafel, Mike Cawley and Shawn Price".

Ok. So far , No largefiles e-mailed.

I have tried taking the page from MArtini's web pages, but this will mean the items being re-drawn, and a largger cost probably to us (me).



MArtini - please can you e-mail me the items you put on the web. I am not too PC literature and this is the easiest way.

Thanks

Robbo

Hello

I like that design for the T-shirt.

When are you taking orders?

In answer to a question posed by someone sometime ago on this thread. Me and a couple of other souls are Team Cannonball. I bought two of last t-shirts and was most impressed, they washed extremely well.

I don't tend to frequent the forum until the month running up to Le Mans, however i was just looking to see if anyone had over ordered tickets, as i'm probably in the market for three tickets for Houx, Houx Annexe, Maison Blanche or Karting Nord.

Jay

Hi
If you let me know the dimensions your chap prints to I can supply finished / separated artwork (save you money) in whichever format he wants (Quark, eps, tiff etc) I will need to know the resolution required also.
Are we going for one colour (black) on the back or the full 3 colours?

Also do you know the exact typeface/font for the Club Arnage logo?

I think it will be a lot cheaper to just print the back in one colour but that is up to you.

If you printout the two draft copies I did and send them to your printer he should get you a price or just copy and email the links to him.

I have taken the colour for the Gulf stripes (front and perhaps back) of various pictures of the cars as I am unsure of the exact Pantone colour - unless someone out there knows.


Martini...

I don't know for sure, but maybe this link (http://www.brandsoftheworld.com/search/?query_id=4858888&page=1&mtype=&brand_id=1771) is of help :)

Thanks Paddy
I actually have that link but the logo is not the same as the actual car colours which I think the stripes should be(?)

This is one of the links I have used for the car colours

http://www.maisonblanche.co.uk/gulflm.html

Even the logos on this site are different - more like the cars.

Martini...

Are we talking about the stripes on Steve's racing coveralls? If so, I thought they were red and blue? Hence the front of the CA t-shirts from the last couple of years (i.e. depicting Steve's outfit

I agree JPC, but I think they are more the colour of the car than the Gulf logo, something I am trying to clarify.

Although on this link the blue is darker
 http://www.brandsoftheworld.com/search/?query_id=4858888&page=1&mtype=&brand_id=1771

Anyone out there with a replica that might know?

Martini...

I've got one of the Dakota replica jackets from Alex Reade.

This should give you a good idea of the colours.

http://www.alexreade.net/acatalog/Dakota_GP_Original_Jacket.html

(http://www.alexreade.net/acatalog/Dakota_GP_Original_Jkt.jpg)

Great, thanks Steve, that clears up a whole load as it also shows that the colours are not the same as the Gulf logo or even the car. I presume they have tried to be authentic.

Martini...

I may be a bit wrong here but I always thought that the idea of the blue / white / red 'Tricolour' on the jacket was to replicate the French flag.

The stripes will be red and blue as always, i am not getting stupid with the "correct" mix of colours, which will get expensive for a shirt worn one weekend a year ??

I was thinking that when I was checking the colours. I think I got the DVD of the LM film free last year with a mag or something, I know I had one in the car when I got home.

Martini...

whoops forgot to add, that i shall get the exact screen size, and will enquire about the rear.

I wouldnt have thought copyright issues will be about for getting them printed.

I think Robbo is right in a way, screened shirts will not hold their colour for ever :-\

But are cheaper to print and dish out.

Hi
Looks like the colours are standard Reflex Blue and Warm Red, no mixing required.

The copyright thing is a little worry, it's not as if we can just put 'two fingers' up to the organisation. They would probably be quite happy to see it but then would probably wonder why they were not making any money out of it.

Has Paddy had any questions about the large banner he puts up, I take it that has not been to the US.

Martini...

Nope, then again I never did anything about copyrights whatsoever. Simply always got away with using the Le Mans- and the Hard Rock Cafe-logo. Even though I am trying to become more careful for '06.

Steve was on our scaffolding, was mentioned by Eurosport and Radio Le Mans, but nobody thought anything of it apparently because we never heard anything. The banner was never for sale though, it's still in my company's loft :)

It depends what you can get away with at the printers.  If you use somebody's picture you need their permission (i.e. you pay) but there are a lot that don't bother.

I couldn't get the 2003 KKOC T shirt printed because it had a Kanterbrau logo on it.  Perhaps they had just been taken to court, and we do take these things very seriously in the UK. 

Now my picture of Paddy's "Two Beers" poster which is itself a picture of a picture leaves me a little confused, but if anyone asks, the copyright is all mine!

Have a word with the printers

i nknow who they are, no one else does though, so..

But dave will cover that angle within time, so no probs.

Have quite a bit of trouble asking Steve McQueen for his permission ! ;D

I am sure the McQueen family would be honoured anyway for people to want to remember Steve in this way .

Its not like there isn't anyone else using this picture now is it !

Its not like there isn't anyone else using this picture now is it !


No that's right Chris.

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Spoke to the printers.

We can order the shirts as in Martini's design with the having 2 beers McQueen, The union jack on the sleeve.

These shirts will cost £9.81 each after printing inc vat. So postage would have to be on top, if thats the way you wanted. ( based on at least 71 shirts being sold)

I WILL require very quickly a high resolution version of the front design and the rear.

The size available to accomadate most sizes of shirt is

40 cm x 30 cm screen.

If anyone wishes to get a break down of the cost for the shirt, drop me a line.

WE MUST take the shirts in white due to the printing process and the McQueen print. If we went back to paddies version, we could have any colour.

LAST QUESTION:

Did we / you / i want the club arnage name on the rear, under or above Mr McQueen, simular to Paddies version ??

Amended to say, we shall put it under the piccy.

If it's a similar size to last year's, then I would say yes, below the Steve image.

Hi Robbo

Just a few answers needed

The 40x30 is 40 deep x 30 wide
Both sides are 3 color or is the back just black (I can put the website underneath very easily, it should be somewhere)
You have the a/w for the flag.
What format do you want the artwork
Final artwork will be available this week, but, I do need to have an answer on the breakdown of the back (3 or 1 colour) as the proper separated artwork will take a bit of work.

Robbo, I will burn a CD with the artwork and post to you unless you can receive large files (on broadband?)

Martini...

Robbo I'd suggest that you make an executive decision on the website name and just go with it!!

The price sounds great to me - presumably we need to add paypay costs or similar on top as well as postage?

If I can do anything to help (collate orders or anything?) just shout - you've done a fab job so far.  ;D

I think the new design is great, and will have 10 of them.  Robbo, I'll let you know the sizes soon - just waiting to get the size of a newbie I will have with me this year.

How much is P&P likely to be - based on the last couple of years.  I would say round it up to £11 or £12 (or whatever), and the change will cover your fuel costs.

Del

MArtini

40 tall, 30 wide

3 colors on the rear as in the picture, although most is a dot matrix type black, big holes, little holes etc.

JPEG is the requested format.

I can get stupid size e-mails on either of my e-mail accounts.

Or post to

Phil Robertson
100 Bevis Road
Portsmouth
Hants


EVERYONE ELSE.

Order once the trial is done and looks ok.

Prices - £10 for collection , £11 for postage  and a pound on either order for paypal.

my paypal address is my e-mail address on my profile.


The www address will be the one already used but now under the picture. FINAL.

SO its ready for printing once the final proofs are mailed....

Hi

Will sort a/w here and print to size to check then get it off to you soon.

Will do Jpegs but will also supply eps as they may want an easier way to separate the colours. The more formats I send the easier it will be for them. Not a problem

I will add www.clubarnage.com on back under 2 beers.


Martini...

Excellent stuff everyone!!!! Ilove it when a plan comes together!!!!  ;D

Robbo, let me know if you wnat any help with any of the sorting/packing etc. Hopefully most people will opt for the easy option of collection on site at MB to make your life easier (and to thank you in person) except for those that are off to Sebring of course!

I'll confirm our small order very soon.

What a team. You guys are great.
 Robbo put me down for 2 shirts in size XL.
 Delivered to Sebring?
Canada Phil

Assuming (hopes) the t-shirts are ready before Sebring, I am happy to courier to those who want them on the left bank of the Atlantic.

As a general question to Robbo / Martini / Smokie etc - is it time for another new locked thread with peoples order requests and some photos / mock ups of the front and back views?

Well done everyone - good teamwork!  ;D

I think a locked thread would be good but I think from Robbo's  message over the page he wants to get test prints before people start to order?

I'd quite like to have mine before Le Mans as we've got Spa first.  I don't mind paying the postage and I don't mind packing up and sending out a batch of orders if someone wants to chuck them my way. 

CORRECT.

Then its e-mail the orders or new thread time. And this thread can be un-stickied.

will you run PayPal again, Robbo?

Ok. Design sorted, payment and cost sorted.

Thread and Poll locked

Clicky on the new one if suitable.

http://www.clubarnage.com/forum/index.php?topic=4462.0