Club Arnage

Club Arnage => So You Think You Know About Le Mans => Topic started by: Gilles on September 26, 2003, 01:31:25 pm

Title: Soldering question
Post by: Gilles on September 26, 2003, 01:31:25 pm: which material used Serraud and Giraud-Cabantous to solde the cooler of their Delahaye in 1938 ? (dedicated to the Commer... ;) )
Title: Re:Soldering question
Post by: Andy Zarse on September 26, 2003, 01:32:47 pm: Rust? Mould? Finger nail clippings? Gala Bingo Asti? Could be anything really. How about an egg?
Title: Re:Soldering question
Post by: Gilles on September 26, 2003, 01:34:37 pm: not an egg. sorry !

but I knew you already experiment a lot of solutions !
Title: Re:Soldering question
Post by: Mr. Rick on September 30, 2003, 11:24:24 am: soap
Title: Re:Soldering question
Post by: Andy Zarse on September 30, 2003, 02:06:13 pm: Soap, Rick? Soap? I have never heard such rubbish in my life. Don't be so ridiculous.
Title: Re:Soldering question
Post by: jpchenet on September 30, 2003, 02:07:47 pm: I must say, Soap in Le Mans does sound like a novelty!!!

That said, knowing Rick's knowledge he's probably right!!
Title: Re:Soldering question
Post by: Nordic on September 30, 2003, 02:19:14 pm: In the absence of Rad Weld, I would have said chewing gum may have worked.
Besides as the car was French would the team had any soap? ;D ;D
Title: Re:Soldering question
Post by: Mr. Rick on September 30, 2003, 02:34:44 pm: Quote from: Andy Zarse on September 30, 2003, 02:06:13 pm
Soap, Rick? Soap? I have never heard such rubbish in my life. Don't be so ridiculous.

Soap. Simple as that. Even if Chris waved a £500,000 cheque in front of me on the million pound question, I would not waver!

;D
Title: Re:Soldering question
Post by: Gilles on September 30, 2003, 03:29:57 pm: YES IT'S SOAP !!!!!! :o
Title: Re:Soldering question
Post by: Mr. Rick on September 30, 2003, 03:35:31 pm: See Andy!!! (Said in a VERY smug fashion!!) Bet my dad is bigger than yours, nyah!!

;D
Title: Re:Soldering question
Post by: hgb on September 30, 2003, 03:43:24 pm: What did you pay to Gilles ? ;D No really, that sounds so weird, what's the story behind this ?
Title: Re:Soldering question
Post by: Andy Zarse on September 30, 2003, 03:52:10 pm: Soap my arse!

I have just been down to the workshop and got out the soldering iron and a new packet of Imperial Leather. All that happens is that the soap melts and smokes quite badly. And surely if it is mixed with hot water, then the inevitable will happen? The engine block will be clean as a whistle inside, but the rad will still leak.

Unless this is a special French soap, insoluble in water??? ;D ;D
Title: Re:Soldering question
Post by: Mr. Rick on September 30, 2003, 04:14:38 pm: Quote from: Andy Zarse on September 30, 2003, 03:52:10 pm
Soap my arse!

I'd rather not if it's all the same to you!

;)

To quote from my source (The ACO 1923-1982 book):

".. et Serraud-Giraud Cabantous, leurs dauphins, prient le ciel pour que la soudure au savon de leur réservoir tienne jusqu'au poteau"

which basically translates as something like they were praying to the sky that their "solder" made of soap would hold watertight.

And it obviously did because they finished 2nd overall!!!

Presumably it was used more as a moulded bung rather than physically soldered!
Title: Re:Soldering question
Post by: gibberish on September 30, 2003, 04:56:21 pm: Ooh Rick, that is very impressive :D
Title: Re:Soldering question
Post by: Andy Zarse on September 30, 2003, 06:41:37 pm: Quote from: The Rickmeister on September 30, 2003, 04:14:38 pm
Quote from: Andy Zarse on September 30, 2003, 03:52:10 pm
Soap my arse!

Presumably it was used more as a moulded bung rather than physically soldered!

Then surely the question should have asked "What material did S and GC use to make a moulded bung...?" I think the answers could be more interesting had this been the case!

Sorry to be a pedant.
Title: Re:Soldering question
Post by: Steve Pyro on September 30, 2003, 07:12:56 pm: I have just tried to have a shower using plumbers solder.
It just doesn't get the muck and dirt off as well as Imperial Leather though :'(
Title: Re:Soldering question
Post by: Andy Zarse on September 30, 2003, 07:15:01 pm: But I bet it helped sweat your joints!
Title: Re:Soldering question
Post by: Steve Pyro on September 30, 2003, 07:22:38 pm: Quote from: Andy Zarse on September 30, 2003, 07:15:01 pm
But I bet it helped sweat your joints!

Very good ;D
Title: Re:Soldering question
Post by: Gilles on October 01, 2003, 08:31:46 am: These drivers observed just one hour before the start that one of the tank has a crack.

Having not enough time to repair their used Marseilles' soap, work it and put it as a dome on this crack.

They runned all the race but needed a burin to take it off.
Title: Re:Soldering question
Post by: Rhino on October 02, 2003, 12:32:14 am: I remember someone saying they ran a mini in the 60's.
The radiator leaked and blew the head gasket in practice.So with no time for an engine change they put in an egg to fix the radiator and English mustard to seal the head gasket!
Anyone else have any odd remedies?
Title: Re:Soldering question
Post by: Gilles on October 02, 2003, 07:58:20 am: Quote from: Rhino on October 02, 2003, 12:32:14 am
I remember someone saying they ran a mini in the 60's.
The radiator leaked and blew the head gasket in practice.So with no time for an engine change they put in an egg to fix the radiator and English mustard to seal the head gasket!
Anyone else have any odd remedies?

There's the classic panties when your fan belt is broken...
Title: Re:Soldering question
Post by: Steve Pyro on October 02, 2003, 10:36:28 am: The old cheshunt of transferring the contents of your bladder to your radiator when you're short of water.
Title: Re:Soldering question
Post by: gibberish on October 02, 2003, 10:46:46 am: Emergency feeler guage: The cardboard from a No. 6 fag packed is 15 thousands of an inch. Do they still sell them anymore?