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Club Arnage => General Discussion => Topic started by: Robbo on January 24, 2012, 04:03:44 pm
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Noise from new Toyota Hybrid http://tvider.com/view/75427 (http://tvider.com/view/75427)
3.4L V8 normally aspirated
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Nice!
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So here's a thought that has just popped into my head.
The new Toyota is a hybrid - i.e it uses electricity to supplement it's drive chain etc.
So does this mean, in a case such as the Frank Biela one a few years back, where he missed the pits and couldn't complete the lap on fuel, that the Toyota, could effectively cruise round at low speed on pure electricity??
Am I missing the point?
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So here's a thought that has just popped into my head.
The new Toyota is a hybrid - i.e it uses electricity to supplement it's drive chain etc.
So does this mean, in a case such as the Frank Biela one a few years back, where he missed the pits and couldn't complete the lap on fuel, that the Toyota, could effectively cruise round at low speed on pure electricity??
Am I missing the point?
Nope - The point exactly!
There is a 500KJ limit of stored energy between braking points imposed by the ACO so as long as you have enough stored, theoretically you can use the stored electrical power to drive back to the pits.
In practice, I think you could only get back from Arnage corner or beyond on the electric
Interesting reading here: http://www.racecar-engineering.com/news/toyota-ts030-lmp1-hybrid-revealed/ (http://www.racecar-engineering.com/news/toyota-ts030-lmp1-hybrid-revealed/)
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thats sounds nice,
Its good news that Toyota have said they will be racing 2 cars at Le Mans now maybe the ex Peugeot drivers will get the seats for the other car
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/97163 (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/97163)
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a source tells me that there's a significant upgrade to the car due before it races at Spa as well, which apparently makes it even more sexy looking....if that's even possible.....
I LOVE this car already!!
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On Board with Alex Wurz at Paul Ricard (Sounds Nice inside too)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViGR1Hw65e4&feature=youtu.be
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More video here: http://dai.ly/Aff9As (http://dai.ly/Aff9As)
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That car looks a lot more sorted than it should be. ;D
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Looks good, no brutal teutonic lines there, and the lineage of TS010 to 020 to 030 is clear. Sounds good. Appears to go good too. Brilliant. Hope it is able to keep Audi honest.
MG Mark
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Sounds pretty good! I will certainly be following how the development programme goes and what sort of times they are doing relative to other P1 competitors. Will be good to see them back at La Sarthe.
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Sweet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bFShHZv4wk&feature=share (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bFShHZv4wk&feature=share)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYFJe1eNcHc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYFJe1eNcHc)
Did that pull off on it's electric motor? It sounded as though the engine didn't start for about 25 yards.
Most of the pit crew aren't using ear defenders.
I am so looking forward to seeing/hearing that car 'in the metal'.
Lots of video released, are they trying to psyche Audi?
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Did sound a bit "milk float" until the engine cut in...
Sweet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bFShHZv4wk&feature=share (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bFShHZv4wk&feature=share)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYFJe1eNcHc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYFJe1eNcHc)
Did that pull off on it's electric motor? It sounded as though the engine didn't start for about 25 yards.
I am so looking forward to seeing/hearing that car 'in the metal'.
Lots of video released, are they trying to psyche Audi?
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So basically it's a car that jump starts itself.
I could do with that for the frogeye on a cold day. Gets the car up to 20mph, into gear, drop the clutch and off you go:laugh:
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Sad I know but I follow Wurz on twitter. He describes pulling away on the electric motors from the pit, so your correct it does do that.
I have also read it has motors to both front and rear wheels giving it 4wd for a small amount of time. must be very odd to drive.
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Yes, Milk Float racing that's what we need after silent diesels, I guess it was inevitable though a progression of KERS for endurance racing? Will it will end up with only being aloud to use Electric Motors in the pits to avoid noise pollution though?. Mean looking Car though.
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Very nice soundtrack, on par with the Aston??
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Very nice soundtrack, on par with the Aston??
Dear God Andy - don't compare it to that can of shite, pleasantly sounding though it may have been!!
Del
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Yes, Milk Float racing that's what we need after silent diesels, I guess it was inevitable though a progression of KERS for endurance racing? Will it will end up with only being aloud to use Electric Motors in the pits to avoid noise pollution though?. Mean looking Car though.
Watch the video - I wouldn't describe the electric motors as quiet!
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I have also read it has motors to both front and rear wheels giving it 4wd for a small amount of time. must be very odd to drive.
The technical regs state that a hybrid drive system can only operate on one axle, ie front or rear. Toyota are evaluating the best option hence a motor on each corner at the moment. The homologated version will only get hybrid drive on one axle. My guess is it will get hybrid drive to the rear only. There are not any really slow corners in the series to make the extra traction gained from driving the front wheels any real benefit. Packaging and aero around the front end of the car will give greater gains, so I expect a pure RWD set up.
Car looks good. Should be well sorted too. The engine has done work in the Rebelion Lolas for a year and the chassis looks to have lots of Dome influence. It won't be on the same level as Audi, but should be a pretty capable car.
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The engine has done work in the Rebelion Lolas for a year and the chassis looks to have lots of Dome influence. It won't be on the same level as Audi, but should be a pretty capable car.
From Racecar Engineering: An all new and as yet unseen 3.4 litre V8 engine has been employed, which is thought to have a lower crankshaft centre line compared to the RV8K engine fitted to the Rebellion Lola’s, Lexus SC430 GT500, Lexus IS350 GT300 and Toyota Formula Nippon.
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having a choice of 2 driving axles makes more sense.if you have a puncture at least 1 axles working and in the wet 4 wheel drive must help.what if it snows?
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Very nice soundtrack, on par with the Aston??
Dear God Andy - don't compare it to that can of shite, pleasantly sounding though it may have been!!
Del
Making a comparison is quite valid. The Toyota appears to be at the stage that the Aston should have been at in January 2011. Toyota have done/are doing the job properly and professionally, Aston didn't.
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Very nice soundtrack, on par with the Aston??
Dear God Andy - don't compare it to that can of shite, pleasantly sounding though it may have been!!
Del
Making a comparison is quite valid. The Toyota appears to be at the stage that the Aston should have been at in January 2011. Toyota have done/are doing the job properly and professionally, Aston didn't.
The Toyota is already looking better than the Aston did on Wednesday June 8th 2011.
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The Toyota is already looking better than the Aston did on Wednesday June 8th 2011.
;D although it irks me to say it. Nail. Head.
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The Toyota is already looking better than the Aston did on Wednesday June 8th 2011.
;D although it irks me to say it. Nail. Head.
As far as the AMR 1 was concerned, nail is the appropriate word.
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The Toyota is already looking better than the Aston did on Wednesday June 8th 2011.
;D although it irks me to say it. Nail. Head.
As far as the AMR 1 was concerned, nail is the appropriate word.
Not "shed" then?
MG Mark
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I think somebody should tell Eurosport what a Hybrid is ???
It doesn't sound fuel free to me, I don't have great confidence in there coverage of WEC and LM now.
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/motorsport/le-mans/
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Probably written by a Eurosport football hack journalist with no clue.
I think somebody should tell Eurosport what a Hybrid is ???
It doesn't sound fuel free to me, I don't have great confidence in there coverage of WEC and LM now.
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/motorsport/le-mans/