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Title: For you WW2 plane fans - 2 Lancasters this summer
Post by: Jason on February 24, 2014, 01:47:52 pm
The Canadian team who have an airworthy Lanc will be bringing her home to Blighty in August this year, and will be forming up on the BBMF's PA474 (currently in 617 colours)

I would imagine their month long stay will culminate at Duxford in September. 2014 just got better


http://www.raf.mod.uk/bbmf/news/index.cfm?storyid=BAE7569A-5056-A318-A85195CB118987ED
www.warplane.com/lancaster-2014-uk-tour.aspx


Title: Re: For you WW2 plane fans - 2 Lancasters this summer
Post by: Lord Steve on February 24, 2014, 07:47:50 pm
Excellent news!


Title: Re: For you WW2 plane fans - 2 Lancasters this summer
Post by: Pilgrim on February 25, 2014, 01:36:45 am
Love the Lanc, but I'm more of a P38 Lightning or Mosquito man, personally.


Title: Re: For you WW2 plane fans - 2 Lancasters this summer
Post by: Canada Phil on February 25, 2014, 02:28:19 am
A little taste http://player.vimeo.com/video/15498493
Taking off from Hamilton where she lives flying over Toronto and then across Lake Ontario to Niagara Falls before returning to base.  She is known as the Mynarski Memorial Lancaster in honour of P/O Andrew Mynarski VC
Phil

(http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/ab145/MaximPhil_photos/Warplane%20Heritage%20Museum%20Dunnville/CWHMLANCASTER004.jpg) (http://s858.photobucket.com/user/MaximPhil_photos/media/Warplane%20Heritage%20Museum%20Dunnville/CWHMLANCASTER004.jpg.html)


Title: Re: For you WW2 plane fans - 2 Lancasters this summer
Post by: Lord Steve on February 25, 2014, 07:16:37 am
Thanks Phil. Awesome.


Title: Re: For you WW2 plane fans - 2 Lancasters this summer
Post by: Jason on February 25, 2014, 08:47:51 am
Thanks Phil


Title: Re: For you WW2 plane fans - 2 Lancasters this summer
Post by: Snoring Rhino on February 25, 2014, 09:51:32 pm
Thank you Phil, that will be an awesome sight and sound, I hope the "selected" air displays will include Bournemouth Air Festival.


Title: Re: For you WW2 plane fans - 2 Lancasters this summer
Post by: smokie on February 27, 2014, 12:08:53 pm
Ugly looking beast isn't it, especially the back view. The Lancaster looks good though.  >:D


Title: Re: For you WW2 plane fans - 2 Lancasters this summer
Post by: Canada Phil on February 28, 2014, 06:12:28 am
Ugly looking beast isn't it, especially the back view. The Lancaster looks good though.  >:D

Hi Smokie,
              I have been told that is my "Good Side"  ;D
Phil


Title: Re: For you WW2 plane fans - 2 Lancasters this summer
Post by: NorwayNick on February 28, 2014, 01:13:09 pm
maybe you can get a lift over Phil ;-)


Title: Re: For you WW2 plane fans - 2 Lancasters this summer
Post by: clkgtrlm1 on February 28, 2014, 06:36:59 pm
Shame it is not here until August.

Would have been great to have seen them at Goodwood or Fairford.


Title: Re: For you WW2 plane fans - 2 Lancasters this summer
Post by: Canada Phil on March 01, 2014, 05:48:27 am
maybe you can get a lift over Phil ;-)

Hi Nick, Now that would be cool. As a 20 minute ride along costs $3500 I dread to think what a 3 day crossing of the Atlantic would be  ;D
Phil


Title: Re: For you WW2 plane fans - 2 Lancasters this summer
Post by: JT on March 02, 2014, 12:11:41 pm
Shame it is not here until August.

Would have been great to have seen them at Goodwood or Fairford.

At the Revival please!


Title: Re: For you WW2 plane fans - 2 Lancasters this summer
Post by: Boorish Grobian on March 02, 2014, 11:04:19 pm
$3500! Holy crap!  When one of the B-17's make their regular stops here in Cincy at Lunken Field, a flight will hit you in the wallet for about $450-500 bucks (tax deductible)  You can always yell when they're in town because when they fly over at low altitude it'll rattle the windows (and scare the crap out of the dog).
http://www.b17.org/
Fax


Title: Re: For you WW2 plane fans - 2 Lancasters this summer
Post by: Stu on March 03, 2014, 11:14:05 am

Hi Nick, Now that would be cool. As a 20 minute ride along costs $3500 I dread to think what a 3 day crossing of the Atlantic would be  ;D
Phil

You could always pass yourself off as a replacement engine. Tom always says you sound like one once in the tent.  ;D  ;)


Title: Re: For you WW2 plane fans - 2 Lancasters this summer
Post by: Canada Phil on March 04, 2014, 02:14:12 am

Hi Nick, Now that would be cool. As a 20 minute ride along costs $3500 I dread to think what a 3 day crossing of the Atlantic would be  ;D
Phil

You could always pass yourself off as a replacement engine. Tom always says you sound like one once in the tent.  ;D  ;)

Hi Stu,
         Funny you should say that you cheeky bugger  ;D The museum has just traded two small aircraft they have duplicates of for 2 Rolls Royce engine......still in the crate from the factory.
Phil


Title: Re: For you WW2 plane fans - 2 Lancasters this summer
Post by: mgmark on March 05, 2014, 11:24:28 pm
So let me get this right then.  Phil is flying across to Le Mans this year in a Lancaster, sandwiched between 2 factory crated zero hour Merlins, making a noise like one?  I can think of many worse ways to arrive at La Sarthe. 

Look forward to seeing FM213, the Mynarski Lancaster in the air together with PA474, "Phantom of the Ruhr" together this summer; it's just a shame that the appearance in Uk of what will be a "once in a Lancaster" trip for FM213, will be too early for the intended return to airworthiness of NX611, Just Jane, to make it 3 in the air together.

This year's BBMF display info should give a clue as to where they're likely to appear together in Augusthttp://www.raf.mod.uk/bbmf/displayinfo/ (http://www.raf.mod.uk/bbmf/displayinfo/)

Fingers crossed for a safe crossing of the pond for the old girl, both ways.

MG Mark   


Title: Re: For you WW2 plane fans - 2 Lancasters this summer
Post by: elanman on March 06, 2014, 09:40:16 am
As BBMF are scheduled to do all of the Bournemouth Air Festival at the end of Aug I hope I'll get to see 2 Lancs in the air, as Mark says, a shame it's too early for 3.


Title: Re: For you WW2 plane fans - 2 Lancasters this summer
Post by: Jason on March 06, 2014, 01:37:53 pm
Look forward to seeing FM213, the Mynarski Lancaster in the air together with PA474, "Phantom of the Ruhr" together this summer; it's just a shame that the appearance in Uk of what will be a "once in a Lancaster" trip for FM213, will be too early for the intended return to airworthiness of NX611, Just Jane, to make it 3 in the air together.
    

Mark, a small correction, PA474 is wearing the colours of 617 at the moment, as Thumper III, sadly not as the Phantom which she wore 2007 - 2013. Personally, I can't wait to see the two together, I've even allocated a days annual leave to see them.

For you Twitter users :
@CWHM (#Lanc2UK)
@RAFBBMF


Title: Re: For you WW2 plane fans - 2 Lancasters this summer
Post by: mgmark on March 07, 2014, 10:45:59 pm
Look forward to seeing FM213, the Mynarski Lancaster in the air together with PA474, "Phantom of the Ruhr" together this summer; it's just a shame that the appearance in Uk of what will be a "once in a Lancaster" trip for FM213, will be too early for the intended return to airworthiness of NX611, Just Jane, to make it 3 in the air together.
    

Mark, a small correction, PA474 is wearing the colours of 617 at the moment, as Thumper III, sadly not as the Phantom which she wore 2007 - 2013. Personally, I can't wait to see the two together, I've even allocated a days annual leave to see them.

Good spot - hadn't clocked that change

MG Mark


Title: Re: For you WW2 plane fans - 2 Lancasters this summer
Post by: Chris24 on March 11, 2014, 05:31:45 am
maybe you can get a lift over Phil ;-)

Hi Nick, Now that would be cool. As a 20 minute ride along costs $3500 I dread to think what a 3 day crossing of the Atlantic would be  ;D
Phil
Yep, that certainly makes the $350 I paid for a 25 minute flight in the B-17 look like a complete bargain !


Title: Re: For you WW2 plane fans - 2 Lancasters this summer
Post by: Jason on March 11, 2014, 01:07:35 pm
maybe you can get a lift over Phil ;-)

Hi Nick, Now that would be cool. As a 20 minute ride along costs $3500 I dread to think what a 3 day crossing of the Atlantic would be  ;D
Phil
Yep, that certainly makes the $350 I paid for a 25 minute flight in the B-17 look like a complete bargain !
Cool! Who and where? Am tempted to book a flight while I'm in the US in May


Title: Re: For you WW2 plane fans - 2 Lancasters this summer
Post by: Boorish Grobian on March 11, 2014, 05:50:35 pm
Your best bet is to look online to see if one of the B-17's will be near you when your here.  There are two or three that are flown by vintage warbird organizations.  I know Aluminum Overcast will be here in Cincinnati in Sept.
Fax


Title: Re: For you WW2 plane fans - 2 Lancasters this summer
Post by: Jason on May 07, 2014, 04:57:44 pm
http://www.warplane.com/lancaster-2014-uk-tour.aspx

the initial dates of a two ship display has been announced



Title: Re: For you WW2 plane fans - 2 Lancasters this summer
Post by: mgmark on May 08, 2014, 11:26:36 pm
http://www.warplane.com/lancaster-2014-uk-tour.aspx
the initial dates of a two ship display has been announced

Nice to see - Sywell and Gransden are just down the road from me, and now that I am working back at Marham, my cup overfloweth  ;D ;D

MG Mark


Title: Re: For you WW2 plane fans - 2 Lancasters this summer
Post by: Jason on May 09, 2014, 09:52:53 am
http://www.warplane.com/lancaster-2014-uk-tour.aspx
the initial dates of a two ship display has been announced

Nice to see - Sywell and Gransden are just down the road from me, and now that I am working back at Marham, my cup overfloweth  ;D ;D

MG Mark

I'm not envious, honest!

have just sorted out an Eastbourne grandstand ticket for the Thursday. Has to be done, I might even make Clacton as I can get therd by train quite easilly


Title: Re: For you WW2 plane fans - 2 Lancasters this summer
Post by: Barry on May 09, 2014, 10:12:38 am
Hope they announce some dates in September, can't make any of the August ones.  :(


Title: Re: For you WW2 plane fans - 2 Lancasters this summer
Post by: elanman on May 09, 2014, 10:49:17 am
Pleased to see that the Bournemouth dates are there, I'll be making that a fixture  :).


Title: Re: For you WW2 plane fans - 2 Lancasters this summer
Post by: Jason on May 16, 2014, 01:47:21 pm
Anyone going to Farnborough? an Me262 will be there


Title: Re: For you WW2 plane fans - 2 Lancasters this summer
Post by: garyfrogeye on May 16, 2014, 06:12:21 pm
http://www.warplane.com/lancaster-2014-uk-tour.aspx
the initial dates of a two ship display has been announced

Nice to see - Sywell and Gransden are just down the road from me, and now that I am working back at Marham, my cup overfloweth  ;D ;D

MG Mark

I no idea that you were back at Marham. No wonder I haven't seen you at the Ace Cafe for ages ::)


Title: Re: For you WW2 plane fans - 2 Lancasters this summer
Post by: landman on May 16, 2014, 07:32:34 pm
Anyone going to Farnborough? an Me262 will be there

Really?

Get in!

I will be so I'm looking forward to that.


Title: Re: For you WW2 plane fans - 2 Lancasters this summer
Post by: Boorish Grobian on May 16, 2014, 08:40:56 pm
Wow, can't be many of those birds still flying.  Just watched a programme the other night on PBS over here about the 262, and the massive underground assembly complex the Germans built to keep the production lines from being pulverized by the Eighth AF, and RAF Bomber Command.  http://www.pbs.org/program/nazi-megaweapons/
I wonder if the 262 coming to Farnborough is the two seater trainer they showed in the above mentioned programme.
Fax


Title: Re: For you WW2 plane fans - 2 Lancasters this summer
Post by: landman on May 16, 2014, 08:48:56 pm
I think they're replicas


Title: Re: For you WW2 plane fans - 2 Lancasters this summer
Post by: Boorish Grobian on May 16, 2014, 10:45:15 pm
Replica's?  I call foul on that.  It's a bit like that Ferrari 156 replica that Chris Rea had built up.  Nice recreation, but I can't get all giddy about seeing a knockoff.  If the real thing doesn't exist, it should be allowed to pass into history.
Fax


Title: Re: For you WW2 plane fans - 2 Lancasters this summer
Post by: Rhino on May 17, 2014, 07:21:50 am
They made a batch of them in the states Fax. Not original engines as they only had a lifespan of 20hrs. I think the next thing they were going to make is some 190 butcher birds.


Title: Re: For you WW2 plane fans - 2 Lancasters this summer
Post by: landman on May 17, 2014, 09:00:33 am
They made a batch of them in the states Fax. Not original engines as they only had a lifespan of 20hrs. I think the next thing they were going to make is some 190 butcher birds.
http://www.stormbirds.com/project/


Title: Re: For you WW2 plane fans - 2 Lancasters this summer
Post by: Jason on May 17, 2014, 10:21:52 am
Replica's?  I call foul on that.  It's a bit like that Ferrari 156 replica that Chris Rea had built up.  Nice recreation, but I can't get all giddy about seeing a knockoff.  If the real thing doesn't exist, it should be allowed to pass into history.
Fax

As long as its built to the same plans/style but openly a replica, I'm happy, getting to see groung breaking designs being flown is great.

Tbough this traises the old question, at what point does a rebuild with modern, but copied, parts become a replica? - question for another thread


Title: Re: For you WW2 plane fans - 2 Lancasters this summer
Post by: Boorish Grobian on May 17, 2014, 05:56:48 pm
Yep, I knew there some FW190 replica's out there.   As Jason points out, its been a long standing argument, especially in vintage racing circles, what's authentic, and what's a replica.  I remember a big stink being raised about a Lancia D50 being entered for some historic events, however the only original components were a engine, and perhaps some drivetrain bits.
I suppose I'm a bit of a purist when it comes to historic warbirds.  That said, most vintage WWII aircraft still flying have gone through such extensive rebuilds there's very little original left on them.  Most of them were built assuming their life expectancy would be around three weeks or so.
Fax


Title: Re: For you WW2 plane fans - 2 Lancasters this summer
Post by: Rhino on May 18, 2014, 02:08:16 am
On the same point Jaguar are building 6 new E Type lightweights. May race at Goodwood revival this year.


Title: Re: For you WW2 plane fans - 2 Lancasters this summer
Post by: Canada Phil on May 18, 2014, 05:33:03 am
maybe you can get a lift over Phil ;-)

Hi Nick, Now that would be cool. As a 20 minute ride along costs $3500 I dread to think what a 3 day crossing of the Atlantic would be  ;D
Phil

Follow on to the above. There are a limited number of seats ( I use the word loosely) available for the crossing of the Atlantic.    Price $40,000  Yes Forty thousand.

Phil


Title: Re: For you WW2 plane fans - 2 Lancasters this summer
Post by: mgmark on May 19, 2014, 01:52:29 pm
http://www.warplane.com/lancaster-2014-uk-tour.aspx
the initial dates of a two ship display has been announced
Nice to see - Sywell and Gransden are just down the road from me, and now that I am working back at Marham, my cup overfloweth  ;D ;D
MG Mark
I no idea that you were back at Marham. No wonder I haven't seen you at the Ace Cafe for ages ::)

It's all been a tad hectic......catch up with you on BN soon if not before

MG Mark


Title: Re: For you WW2 plane fans - 2 Lancasters this summer
Post by: mgmark on May 19, 2014, 01:55:38 pm
maybe you can get a lift over Phil ;-)
Hi Nick, Now that would be cool. As a 20 minute ride along costs $3500 I dread to think what a 3 day crossing of the Atlantic would be  ;D
Phil
Follow on to the above. There are a limited number of seats ( I use the word loosely) available for the crossing of the Atlantic.    Price $40,000  Yes Forty thousand.
Phil


That's a fair sized wedge to be able to look down on a lot of ocean....although it would certainly give one the flavour of what it was like to fly a long trip in one....

MG Mark


Title: Re: For you WW2 plane fans - 2 Lancasters this summer
Post by: Perdu on May 19, 2014, 06:15:19 pm
http://www.warplane.com/lancaster-2014-uk-tour.aspx
the initial dates of a two ship display has been announced

Nice to see - Sywell and Gransden are just down the road from me, and now that I am working back at Marham, my cup overfloweth  ;D ;D

MG Mark

I no idea that you were back at Marham. No wonder I haven't seen you at the Ace Cafe for ages ::)

Well I'm bebaggered! You back there, is the place getting sportier then?

(I heard stories that the new gaffer was un-motorsportyinclined.)

And I was hoping we'd see you at the Ace in August when my mates will be convoying to Hendon and the Ace on the 11th.

I wish I was going to have a natter in BN or outside this year, can we book a chat for June 2015?


Title: Re: For you WW2 plane fans - 2 Lancasters this summer
Post by: mgmark on May 20, 2014, 06:22:59 am
Bill,

Indeed I'm back there, gaffer not non-motorsporty - quite the opposite really, he's got an XKR and an E-type  and comes with us to Le Mans. They've been stymied for the last couple of years by op commitments and most recently by the runway condition. Hoping to get something going sgain soon.

I've probably missed it elsewhere on the forum, but presume from what you say that you won't be on BN this year? If not, then the Ace in August sounds like a great idea

MG Mark


Title: Re: For you WW2 plane fans - 2 Lancasters this summer
Post by: Perdu on May 20, 2014, 05:06:17 pm
Sadly LM has to take a back seat until I fix up the ancient pile, fences, storms and such. ;)

That the man is one of us is far better news, I have happier times ahead then, just recently read about a runway refurb being needed.

:) yeehah

The Ace will have quite a few Midgets and possibly a peskiness of MGFs in August, be great to sup a few and chew things over then mate

b


Title: Re: For you WW2 plane fans - 2 Lancasters this summer
Post by: Jason on June 25, 2014, 02:04:51 pm
Bit of a heads up, PA474 and KB726 will be doing a fly past of NX611 Just Jane in September

Tickets on sale tomorrow


Title: Re: For you WW2 plane fans - 2 Lancasters this summer
Post by: Stu on July 26, 2014, 07:53:21 pm
Just a quick one from the Sunderland Airshow today. Bit awkward trying to shoot them bobbing around on a boat.  :-\

I'll have a look through and post some more tomorrow.


Title: Re: For you WW2 plane fans - 2 Lancasters this summer
Post by: nopanic - neil on July 27, 2014, 10:36:50 pm
Just a quick one from the Sunderland Airshow today. Bit awkward trying to shoot them bobbing around on a boat.  :-\

I'll have a look through and post some more tomorrow.

Problem with boat?

Try this Stu, right up your street  ;D


Title: Re: For you WW2 plane fans - 2 Lancasters this summer
Post by: Jason on July 30, 2014, 02:17:01 pm
The lucky winner (Git with a lot of money) who is flying from Hamilton to Conningsby later this week is on Twitter, and will be updating as the journey goes: @MaffMunson


Title: Re: For you WW2 plane fans - 2 Lancasters this summer
Post by: Jason on January 21, 2015, 02:47:45 pm
Just a bump, the dvd of the trip will be released in the summer.

Trailer is on you-tube : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ol2rem6d3g
www.suddenlyseemore.com/portfolioentry/reunion-of-giants/


Title: Re: For you WW2 plane fans - 2 Lancasters this summer
Post by: Stu on January 29, 2015, 12:55:19 am
I want it now  >:( >:(