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Club Arnage => General Discussion => Topic started by: Grand_Fromage on April 24, 2015, 10:48:06 am

Title: I do miss proper sounding race cars.
Post by: Grand_Fromage on April 24, 2015, 10:48:06 am: Compare the 'whistle' of the R18 e-tron quattro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGXCIw96-N0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGXCIw96-N0)

With the symphony in 12 cylinders of the Porsche 917K

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkP5Svl16Qg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkP5Svl16Qg)
Title: Re: I do miss proper sounding race cars.
Post by: Kristof on April 24, 2015, 03:47:49 pm: The Rebellion sounded rather nice last year ...
Title: Re: I do miss proper sounding race cars.
Post by: Maximum on April 24, 2015, 04:04:02 pm: Nothing beats the sound of an ( old ) corvette.
Title: Re: I do miss proper sounding race cars.
Post by: Steve Pyro on April 24, 2015, 04:30:38 pm: Quote from: Maximum on April 24, 2015, 04:04:02 pm

Nothing beats the sound of an ( old ) corvette.

Panoz GTR-1 Batmobile and Panoz LMP1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U86lf-LRXiE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U86lf-LRXiE)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kH80xJxlPVk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kH80xJxlPVk)
Title: Re: I do miss proper sounding race cars.
Post by: garyfrogeye on April 24, 2015, 05:53:49 pm: The sound of that old two cylinder SAAB straining to the very limits in the support race a few years ago was fun ;D
Title: Re: I do miss proper sounding race cars.
Post by: Boorish Grobian on April 24, 2015, 09:00:39 pm: Ferrari or Alfa flat 12, what a beautiful sound! I always liked the jungle yell of a DFV, some didn't like it, but the bark & crackle on over-run always made me feel warm & fuzzy all over.
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Title: Re: I do miss proper sounding race cars.
Post by: jimclark on April 25, 2015, 04:03:26 pm: Quote from: Maximum on April 24, 2015, 04:04:02 pm

Nothing beats the sound of an ( old ) corvette.
You mean like this one:
(http://www.greenwoodcorvettes.com/Race%20cars/74,%2075,%2076/76/76LeMansElji1.jpg)
I've yet to visit Le Mans but it sure did thunder around Daytona, tho' I preferred the wail of the straight six CSLs:(http://media.caranddriver.com/images/media/440147/the-1976-race-was-stopped-for-nearly-three-hours-when-bad-fuel-began-to-plague-the-cars-after-a-restart-peter-gregg-took-the-winmdashhis-third-consecutive-victorymdashin-the-59-bmw-35-csl-photo-440166-s-1280x782.jpg)
Alas days of yore...see my sig below...
Title: Re: I do miss proper sounding race cars.
Post by: Boorish Grobian on April 25, 2015, 07:45:51 pm: Probably the most raucous sports car I ever heard was when Herbert Muller raced a Ferrari 512 spyder in the 1974 Can-Am series, I got to see, and hear it at Mid-Ohio. The sound of that thing powering out of the Keyhole onto the back straight at MO was fantastic.
But probably the most ridiculous sounding racing cars I ever saw in person were the early-mid seventies USAC Dirt Champ cars that used the Ford four cam engine developed for Indy. The sight & sound of those vicious devices bombing around places like Terre Haute, or the Indiana State Fairgrounds, driven by the likes of AJ Foyt, Mario Andretti, the Unser bros., Johnny Rutherford, Gary Bettenhausen, etc. was something special. I got to see them many times during that era, including in 1974 when Mario took the USAC title, in his last year on dirt. The Fords were pure screamers, while the four banger Offy's made more of a ripping fabric sound, a great combination in battle.
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Title: Re: I do miss proper sounding race cars.
Post by: Lord Steve on April 26, 2015, 09:12:39 am: Quote from: Maximum on April 24, 2015, 04:04:02 pm

Nothing beats the sound of an ( old ) corvette.

Completely agree.
Title: Re: I do miss proper sounding race cars.
Post by: mgmark on April 26, 2015, 09:42:04 am: Basic rules that seem to work for me are:

The more cylinders the better
Pre-electronics era
Normally aspirated (although superchargers rather than turbos seem ok)

So, anything from a Ford Escort Mk1/2 rally car, through DFVs Amercian V8s, Matra/Ferrari V12s etc up to the BRM V16......

MG Mark
Title: Re: I do miss proper sounding race cars.
Post by: jimclark on April 26, 2015, 11:22:26 am: Quote from: mgmark on April 26, 2015, 09:42:04 am
up to the BRM V16......

MG Mark

And H-16... :)
Title: Re: I do miss proper sounding race cars.
Post by: mgmark on April 26, 2015, 12:57:01 pm: Quote from: jimclark on April 26, 2015, 11:22:26 am
Quote from: mgmark on April 26, 2015, 09:42:04 am
up to the BRM V16......
MG Mark
And H-16... :)

Indeed, mechanical complexity and noise aplenty there!

MG Mark
Title: Re: I do miss proper sounding race cars.
Post by: Boorish Grobian on April 26, 2015, 07:42:45 pm: And weight! Probably its biggest downside.
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Title: Re: I do miss proper sounding race cars.
Post by: Boorish Grobian on April 26, 2015, 07:47:21 pm: The H-16's were notorious for the amount of oil they chucked out, it's widely agreed that Mike Parkes '67 Spa shunt was caused by oil coming from the BRM of Sir JYS directly in front of him.
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Title: Re: I do miss proper sounding race cars.
Post by: jimclark on April 26, 2015, 09:54:47 pm: Not meaning to hi-jack the thread, but, was it's only win in the back of Jimmy's Lotus at watkins Glen in '66? I think so....
(http://www.allf1.info/engines/photos/brmh16.jpg)
Title: Re: I do miss proper sounding race cars.
Post by: aricus654 on April 27, 2015, 01:24:17 am: I do love the V8.

I am sorry, but I do like the sound of the Audi Diesels. When they start them up without the top cover they sound like a broken Hoover, but when they pass you at race speed they sound like they're steam powered.

Aricus
Title: Re: I do miss proper sounding race cars.
Post by: mgmark on April 28, 2015, 10:45:36 pm: Quote from: jimclark on April 26, 2015, 09:54:47 pm
Not meaning to hi-jack the thread, but, was it's only win in the back of Jimmy's Lotus at watkins Glen in '66? I think so....
(http://www.allf1.info/engines/photos/brmh16.jpg)

I believe you are correct - one race win

MG Mark
Title: Re: I do miss proper sounding race cars.
Post by: Rhino on April 28, 2015, 11:02:08 pm: The Jag V12 with the 48valve head. Only ever ran at Brands. Had that extra mechanical noise which was fabulous.
Metro 6R4 engine. Always sounded like it was on the verge of blowing up.
Title: Re: I do miss proper sounding race cars.
Post by: elanman on April 29, 2015, 09:55:45 am: Quote from: mgmark on April 28, 2015, 10:45:36 pm
Quote from: jimclark on April 26, 2015, 09:54:47 pm
Not meaning to hi-jack the thread, but, was it's only win in the back of Jimmy's Lotus at watkins Glen in '66? I think so....
(http://www.allf1.info/engines/photos/brmh16.jpg)

I believe you are correct - one race win

MG Mark

Wholly correct and broke as it crossed the finish line!