Club Arnage
Club Arnage => General Discussion => Topic started by: Nordic on November 17, 2005, 06:16:03 pm
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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/11/15/vehicle_movement_database/
Am I alone in thinking if this is a step to far?
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Hi hope Big Brother is watching me...Dubbya, your a lying sack of sh**t who couldn't think your way out of a paper bag, Condi you dumb bitch, is that your hair or a crash helmet?, Cheney why don't give your kick-backs back the tax payers you thieving c**nt and Rumsfeld...your a war criminal!
Wohoo...come and get me!
Fax
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It seems to me that the only people that need to worry are those that deliberately fail to tax and insure there vehicles, and those that fail to register the car in their own name :-\
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I think it's the exact opposite. Those that don't register he vehicle will continue to get away with murder, literally. Those of us who are generally law abiding but make an "administrative error" (i.e. have a brain fart and forget to go to the Post Office) will get hammered. The people behing this little lots are c**ts. As I have said before, Big Brother IS watching and will be prying into more areas of your life from a State Police HQ near you soon.
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I think it's the exact opposite. Those that don't register he vehicle will continue to get away with murder, literally. Those of us who are generally law abiding but make an "administrative error" (i.e. have a brain fart and forget to go to the Post Office) will get hammered. The people behing this little lots are c**nts. As I have said before, Big Brother IS watching and will be prying into more areas of your life from a State Police HQ near you soon.
I think thats what i just said ::)
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The new DVLA register has helped keep good cars on the road recently and remove hundreds of un-taxed rubbish.
There are still problems with ANPR, and it will take a very big computer to track all 55 million cars all round the country.
I would guess the idea is for areas of high risk, central london for instance.
No idea otherwise, and who cares, i havent done anything wrong ?
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I think it's the exact opposite. Those that don't register he vehicle will continue to get away with murder, literally. Those of us who are generally law abiding but make an "administrative error" (i.e. have a brain fart and forget to go to the Post Office) will get hammered. The people behing this little lots are c**nts. As I have said before, Big Brother IS watching and will be prying into more areas of your life from a State Police HQ near you soon.
I think thats what i just said ::)
Err... Not as I read it!
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The new DVLA register has helped keep good cars on the road recently and remove hundreds of un-taxed rubbish.
There are still problems with ANPR, and it will take a very big computer to track all 55 million cars all round the country.
I would guess the idea is for areas of high risk, central london for instance.
No idea otherwise, and who cares, i havent done anything wrong ?
I quite agree Robbo, However, I think I've had a reasonable run so far. Forty years motoring, Always had a clean licence. Never had an accident that needed to be reported to the Police. Then, a couple of months back I get snapped by a camera (36 in a 30).
The road had been a 40 since gods know when. Then in Feb this year they drop the limit to 30. No signs to say "watch out" Speed limit reduced. So I get the offer of £60 and 3 points or attend a Speed awareness Workshop £70 and no points. So I of course I take the £70 no points.
Why did they drop the limit?
I guess for "safety" so why not advertise it?
None the less I'm pissed off it was a bright sunny day on a very wide road with little traffic and no pedestrians. I don't belive any Police person would have stopped in the circumstances.
The after the course I'm even more PO. The lecturer addmitted to haveing been done 4 times!!!! Who the F is he to lecture me about speed awareness?
I just came back from the USA want a pleasue to drive over there. (Well for a Brit) No real worries about over doing the speed. Though I was not the fastest on the freeway. :-)
But I had forgotten how pleasant it is to drive the car and not the Speedo.
I could rant on for ages about it. But I think you get my point. :-)
T.
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I think it's the exact opposite. Those that don't register he vehicle will continue to get away with murder, literally. Those of us who are generally law abiding but make an "administrative error" (i.e. have a brain fart and forget to go to the Post Office) will get hammered. The people behing this little lots are c**nts. As I have said before, Big Brother IS watching and will be prying into more areas of your life from a State Police HQ near you soon.
Agreed. Why do they always seem to pick on the easy targets and the real criminals always seem to get away with it.
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Agreed. Why do they always seem to pick on the easy targets and the real criminals always seem to get away with it.
Because its as you say an "easy target"
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The simple answer is a Jersey plate
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I think it's the exact opposite. Those that don't register he vehicle will continue to get away with murder, literally. Those of us who are generally law abiding but make an "administrative error" (i.e. have a brain fart and forget to go to the Post Office) will get hammered. The people behing this little lots are c**nts. As I have said before, Big Brother IS watching and will be prying into more areas of your life from a State Police HQ near you soon.
I think thats what i just said ::)
Eh? Gary, I don't get it. If you don't register the vehicle or if you use false number plates, then how are they going to catch you?
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By chasing you big boy :D
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By chasing you big boy :D
So this giant computer logs you as a bad "big boy", for whatever reason, and then puts a chase car on your tail - just like that.
Pretty damn clever I'd say. And I don't believe it for one second. ;)
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They'll do something. Probably find a popular spot and lie in wait.
Its too good to miss. A guaranteed nick makes the crime statistics look good.
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ANPR (& CCTV) apparently had a hand in tracking the robbers who murdered the policewoman the other day.
So it's not all bad...
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So this giant computer logs you as a bad "big boy", for whatever reason, and then puts a chase car on your tail - just like that.
Pretty damn clever I'd say. And I don't believe it for one second. ;)
I seem to recall that newer police traffic cars scan number plates of cars in front of them (going in the opposite direction as well??). Then check them against a list of "bad big boy" plates, they can then follow you (as long as they're not busy doing anything else)
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Yep, also checks against DVLA database for valid tax & insurance (...they look for likelihood of insurance) and of course with computerised MOTs coming in, them too. The system doesn't require any monitoring or setup by the officers - an alert sounds when a bad car is scanned. Also you will see ANPR vans set up by the side of the road, often with a mobile patrol some way further up the road. I've mostly seen them just as you come off roundabouts. Bit like a camera van but with the device tripod mounted and lower than a camera would be.
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I have no problem with this at all, all cars belonging to my family are legal and are roadworthy. If this helps keep some of the uninsured and untaxed wrecks off the road I am all for it, even more so if it will stop my insuranse premiums rising every year when I havn't made a claim.
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I think it's the exact opposite. Those that don't register he vehicle will continue to get away with murder, literally. Those of us who are generally law abiding but make an "administrative error" (i.e. have a brain fart and forget to go to the Post Office) will get hammered. The people behing this little lots are c**nts. As I have said before, Big Brother IS watching and will be prying into more areas of your life from a State Police HQ near you soon.
I think thats what i just said ::)
Eh? Gary, I don't get it. If you don't register the vehicle or if you use false number plates, then how are they going to catch you?
Please read again my first post, that is what i said ::)
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Mate, honestly I'm not trying to be awkward. I've de-constructed your sentence a million times, looked at it from every which way, but no, I still don't understand how you think we're saying the same thing. I think KPY, who is a trained lawyer and understands such subtlties, agrees with me too.
Our statements are diametric and polar opposites, unless of course you had intended your non sequitur to be what is known in grammatical circles as a "Conjectural Emendation"; this is where the variants inherent in a text are for some reason unsatisfactory, and the textual critic (me) is forced to make an educated guess about the proper reading of the text.
If only Derrida was still alive...
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From the article
The new offence of keeping a vehicle without insurance criminalises the previously harmless pastime of keeping an uninsured vehicle in a garage and not driving it, and comes on top of the previous breakthrough of criminalising keeping an untaxed vehicle in a garage and not driving it. The latter was dealt with by requiring owners to register the vehicle as off the road via a Statutory Off-Road Notification.
So what is wrong with an uninsured car that doesn't go anywhere?
Will we need to provide evidence that it is not driveable or in the process of a ground up restoration (if that isn't also illegal).
Bloody control freaks!
