Club Arnage

OK so is anyone else thinking of going to Britcar, it is on the 9th and 10th of September.

24 hour race at Silverstone should be fun in september and lets hope it is drier then previous years.

I seem to remember seeing that the only campsite is Whittlebury Hall. I was not that impressed with it but we were on the outfield. If there are lots of people then the owners open up the better field for camping.

I am definately up for it, who else?

Whittlebury Hall is the ONLY campsite. For Booking and information ring:- 01327 858092

A 24 hour race? Hm, tempting... what kind of cars will be driving?

Sportscars, it is the English equivilent of the 24 hours of LM  ;D

See:-

http://www.silverstone-circuit.co.uk/html/ra_britcar.php

Yes, we'll be there :)

I'm not entirely sure I'd agree with that description!! 

That is what the website said! We all know that the faclities are worse, it will rain and it is a lot more expensive.

I have declined the opportunity to attend and I agree with “piglet” and think a public flogging for suggesting the Silverstone 24 is anything like Le Mans.

If you want to see a UK 24 with great atmosphere and a true sense of fun do the 2CV 24 at Snetterton!!!!.

This race is like LM only in that it lasts for 24 hours. Lots of saloon cars and Porsches I think there were 80 cars starting last year! I went last year in the rain and I think there was a total crowd of about 100. However I still thought it was great fun. There was limited catering so take your own food and beer. You can wonder round the circuit and enjoy some great viewing. I think the weekend ticket is £25.00 so shouldn't break the bank. I had promised myself that I would go this year too but Mrs Monkey has booked us a holiday in Greece, so I will not be attending.

I hope that some of you do go, I really think that the enthusiasm shown by the organisers for the concept of endurance racing really does deserve support.
 ;D

didn't fifth gear do a spot with tiff driving a db9?

For those with Sky sports, check out this weeks World Motorsport , there was a fantastic package on last nights show of the race at Brands, good close racing throughout the classes. 8)

Not camped at Silverstone for ages, whats it like ???

Recomendations appreciated   :)

Will be along myself. But as I live near Silverstone will be in a comfey bed! Whent last year, it was good fun, just hope the weather is better. A greart collection of cars, Moslers to Mec 500sl's!

As for it being a British LM, no not realy, more the old Willhire 24rh at Snetterton.

Not sure if camping at Silverstone is avaliable, if there is:-there are little or no facilities on the infield.

The alternative is to use Whittlebury Hall that is walking distance but it is not cheap. There are showers and toilets though.

I will try to find out what the situation is.

CAMPING IS NOT AVALIABLE AT SILVERSTONE!

USE:-

Whittlebury Hall Camping For Booking and information ring:- 01327 858092

I will be there for the 24hours. Getting there friday night.

Same, here, well Friday morning for me. But then I'm working, so I'll have a nice warm media centre...

Mike, so will I.  ;D

Provisional Entry List

1 GT RS Rollcentre Racing / Deutsche Bank Martin Short / Shaun Balfe / Nick Jacobs / TBA Mosler MT900R
2 GT RS Eclipse Motorsport Mosler TBA MT900R
3 GT RS BS Motorsport TBA Porsche
7 GT RS Emotional Engineering Steve Hyde / Matt Griffin / TBA Vauxhall Monaro
9 GT RS BS Motorsport John Coyle / TBA Porsche
18 GT RS Peter Cook Peter Cook / Franck Pelle / Paul Livesey / Brian Robinson / Mike Youles Porsche GT3 RS
23 GT RS Adam Sharpe Motorsport Adam Sharpe / George Haynes / TBA Ford Falcon
28 GT RS Vision View Ltd Mike Newton / Thomas Erdos / Adam Wiseberg Ford Falcon GT3
29 GT RS Team Solutions Ian Stinton / Neil Clark / Stephen Hepworth / Rob Horsfield Harrier GT1-97
32 GT RS Adam Sharpe Motorsport Adam Sharpe / George Haynes / TBA Ford Falcon

5 GT3 BILMO Peter Hardman / Nick Leventis / Jon Minshaw BMW M3 E46 GTR
14 GT3 Richard Thorne Motorsport Richard Thorne / Howard Spooner / TBA Morgan Aero 8
16 GT3 Mardi Gras Motorsport Michael McInerney / Sean McInerney / Michael Vergers Porsche GT3
20 GT3 Chad Racing Ltd Pete James / Philip Harris / John Hartshorne / Bo McCormick Porsche GT3 Cup
22 GT3 Chad Racing Ltd TBA Porsche GT3 Cup
26 GT3 Arrow Ship Motorsport Richard Meins / TBA BMW E90
27 GT3 Team Parker Racing Bill Cameron / Barry Horne / Marino Franchitti Porsche GT3 Cup 996
30 GT3 Team RPM Alex Mortimer / Chris Panayiotou / TBA Porsche GT3 Cup
31 GT3 Active Competition Matt Manderson / daryl Jones / Guy Jeynes-Ellis Darrian T90 GTR
38 GT3 Wilmott Racing Colin Wilmott / TBA Porsche 911 GT3 Cup
41 GT3 911virgin.com Henry Firman /Pete Morris / Mark Sumpter / Adrian Slater Porsche 911 GT3 Cup
88 GT3 Team Scandal Simon Scuffham / Chris Randall / William Curtis Prosport LM3000

4 GT Cup Harrison Topcats Racing Jon Harrison / TBA Marcos Mantis
6 GT Cup Harrison Topcats Racing Richard Fores / TBA Marcos Mantis
10 GT Cup Jemco Racing Kevin Hancock / Leigh Smart / Nick Reynolds / James Thorpe Marcos Mantis
11 GT Cup ISL Motorsport Alun Edwards / Paul Jenkins / TBA Marcos Mantis V8
17 GT Cup Tischner Motorsport Marco Schelp / Matthias Tischner / TBA BMW M3 E46
19 GT Cup GTS Motorsport Harry Handkammer / David Leslie / Stuart Wright / Guy Smith BMW M3
21 GT Cup Torquespeed Dave Benett / Marcus Fothergill BMW M3 E36
25 GT Cup Chad Racing Ltd TBA BMW M3
34 GT Cup BLS Automotive John Clonis /David Streather / Malcolm MacAdam / Alistair Mackinnon Porsche 993 RS
35 GT Cup Moore International Motorsport Willie Moore / Lawrence Tomlinson / David Cox BMW M3
36 GT Cup Marcus Racing Cor Euser / TBA Marcos Mantis
37 GT Cup Duke Video Peter Duke / Adrian Watt / Alan Gow BMW M3 E36 GTR
39 GT Cup Chesterton Commercial Holdings Oliver Bryant / Graham Bryant / John Finnemore / Chris Beighton Marcos Mantis
43 GT Cup Richard Thorne Motorsport Richard Thorne / TBA Morgan Roadster Lightweight
44 GT Cup Phil Bennett Phil Bennett / TBA Subaru Impreza
47 GT Cup Marcos Racing International Cor Euser / Jan De Wit / TBA Marcos Mantis
50 GT Cup Technosport George Agyeton / Frank Candell / David Coyne / TBA BMW M3 E46

49 1 Rapid Chariots Ltd Bob Stockley / Alan Wilshire / Charlie Tawse Lotus Exige 2
53 1 Povey Motorsport Guy Povey / John Llewellyn / Richard Cobbourne BMW M3 E36
54 1 Roos Motorsport Martin Roos / Wilfried Schawohl / Norman Starke / TBA Lotus Exige 2
55 1 Steve Bell Steve Bell / TBA BMW M3 E36
56 1 Geoff Steel Motorsport Geoff Steel / TBA BMW M3 E36
57 1 Beechdean Motorsport Ltd Andrew Howard / Nigel Greensall / Neil Cunningham / Aaron Scott MINI
58 1 Team Scandal Simon Scuffham / Nick Randall / Doug Setters / TBA Lotus Elise
59 1 RSR Racing Rob Croydon / Adrian Mardlin / Sam Allpass / Duncan Williams BMW M3 E36
60 1 Team Wireless Patrick Charlton / Mark Charlton / TBA Lotus Elise
66 1 T H Motorsport Alan Sawyer / Ken Lark / John Quatermaine VW Golf Diesel
71 1 Wilmott Racing Colin Wilmott / Robert Day / Paul Phipps / Mark Tyman BMW M3 E36
75 1 X L Motorsport Dominc Evans / Simon Poole / TBA BMW M3 E36
76 1 Moore Racing Paul Fenton / Mike Gardiner / Sarah Reader / Michael Symons BMW M3 E36
78 1 Intersport Racing Kevin Clarke / Mike Jordan / Ian Donaldson BMW M3 E46
79 1 Butler Motorsport Paul White / Calum Lockie / Tony Brown / Don Grice BMW M3 E36

33 2 Metcalf Motorsport Mark Smith / David Cuff / Nigel Stephens / Scott Redding / Adam Howarth BMW Compact
51 2 Alistair Davidson Alistair Davidson / Chris Wilson / TBA Mercedes 190
63 2 Aerox Ltd Kevan Wells / TBA Honda Civic Type R
67 2 Damax Honda David Back / David Foster / Andy Ruhan Civic Type R
69 2 Griffin Motorsport Julian Griffin / Merrick Cox / TBA Renault Clio
70 2 Gold Arts Doug Newman / TBA Honda Integra
92 2 Mardi Gras Motorsport John George / Phil Bennett / Ed Pead / Rob Huff / Mark Lemmer Honda Civic Type R

52 3 Janspeed Boston Bowl Fiona Leggate / Umberto Nacamuli / Rob Oldaker / Ben Jacques MG ZR
64 3 Moore Racing Gary Coulson / Jonathan Berney / Andrei Bgatov / Bob Bryce Honda Civic Type R
68 3 Team Thrush Ian Bankhurst / Austin Reynolds / Richard Ince / Nick Padmore / Austin Kinsella / Tony Gaston Honda Civic Type R
71 3 BBG Racing John Ballentyne / Tom Ballentyne / Ian Gibson / Stuart Brooks Porsche 944
72 3 Team Think Matt Potter / Martin Rodgers TBA
73 3 MGA Motorsport Alex Frick / Terry Flatt / Nick Beaumount / Dave Turner / Mike Gorton VW Beetle
74 3 Daniels Motorsport Pete Daniels / TBA TBA
77 3 TJH Motorsport Jonathan Holloway / Simon Mason / Ian Carvell / Gethin Jones Honda Civic Type R
80 3 Nick Starkey / TBA TBA
81 3 Mickel Automotive Gary Smith / Stuart Plotnek / Kelly-Anne Smith / Sarah Bennett-Baggs / Anna Walenska MG ZR
85 3 Daniels Motorsport Pete Daniels / TBA TBA
86 3 Jemco Racing Kevin Hancock / Leigh Smart / Nigel Rata / James Baxter / Matthew West / Richard Gane Honda Integra Type R
96 3 Mazda Motors Ltd Mark Ticehurst / Martin Donnelly / Ian Flux / Owen Mildenhall Mazda RX8
97 3 Mazda Motors Ltd Rachel Green / John Griffiths / Richard Chamberlain / Andy Shepherd / Stephen Guglielmi Mazda RX8
98 3 Mazda Motors Ltd Mike Wilds / Anderw Frankel / Jason Barlow / Ben Whitworth / Stephen Guglielmi Mazda RX8
99 3 Cartek Neil Armstrong / TBA Honda Civic

Entry list is looking good with an interesting mix of cars.

The rumour is though that they are not allowing spectators to take their cars into the circuit. As I say its a rumour at the moment and if any one can shed any light on the subject then please do.

Damn, I wish I'd known this before! Beats Donington 1000 KM if you ask me.

Go on you know you want to come back to the UK, or just stay here the two weeks!  ;D

Will have a chat to the EERC media bod tomorrow (it's media day today) meybee he'll shed some light on this

EERC entry lists are not always very reliable.  They seem to lose entries before the event.

Re parking I'd imagine that means no parking "over the bridge" so just using the outer tarmac carparks and not the inner carparking for punters.  This is often the case for events like FIA GT's etc.

You couldn't get your cars into the main entrance last year so it was a pain having to effectivly leave the circuit and go to the exterior car parks to get anything out of your car.
Silverstone very rarely let you get your car through the main gate into the circuit these days unless it is a little clubbie.
Getting them in but not over the bridge would be fine.

Yes that's what I mean, not over the first bridge (so perhaps correctly not over Bridge).  It's a big meeting (in space terms) and I imagine that the inside of the circuit will be filled with teams and support race teams.  I believe that there are plans for more entertainment than last year and that will also take up space in the centre. 

Yes that's what I mean, not over the first bridge (so perhaps correctly not over Bridge).  It's a big meeting (in space terms) and I imagine that the inside of the circuit will be filled with teams and support race teams.  I believe that there are plans for more entertainment than last year and that will also take up space in the centre. 

No last year you could not get through the main entrance at all, you were forced to park in the car park to the right which meant that you had to leave the 'circuit' to get anything from your car. Also, annoying was the fact that there were no  car parks open at all down at Stowe, so if you wanted to view down there then you had to walk. Also all the grandstands on the hanger were roped off but I seem to remember getting onto the seats at Stowe corner. As for camping, if I had been going this year, I would be tempted to carry in my stuff and set up down behind the vale, or at Stowe. All the toilet blocks were open, so though not ideal, because the crowd was so small and most likely will be this year, then you would be comfortable enough for one night anyhow.

Sorry, I'm clearly not making sense!! (and I was sober!).

Yes not "over Bridge" will leave you parking in the carparks outside the security gate.  My point is that there is nothing much unusual about that though, it's the way that most big meetings are run.  Skid Solo seemed to be wanting info about what that meant and I was trying to point out that "not taking cars into the circuit" only meant using the outer carparks not the grand prix type "park in Northampton" set up.

I'll get me coat  :(

I emailed Siverstone yesterday about the parking arrangements and had this reply:-

Hi
 
I have checked with our Event Manager and you will be able to drive in although not into the centre areas.
 
Many thanks and I hope you enjoy the event.
 
Sheila

Looks like we can get behind the grandstands and around the circuit, which is good news.

That is good news!! Good to hear that Silverstone are being a bit more flexible for a change. Now I really do wish I was going :-[ It will be really interesting to see how many spectators turn out to see it, as I mentioned in an earlier post (and I was not kidding) I put the 'crowd' at around 100-200 last year. But I think it is really encouraging that the event is getting a mention here at CA this year and hope that it is an indication of much better levels of support, I really think the event deserves it. ;D

I have heard that there was a grand total of.....................(drum roll)........................93 paying spectators.

I was in the pit grandstand at stupid o'clock and there was 4 other people in not just the pit granstand but all of the grandstands round Woodcote. :o

Still a great event though and shall look forward to it this year. ;D

It's not a question of wanting, my friend. It's the lack of funds and days off. There's always next year though.

For what it is worth Skid I was one of the others, sat right at the back near the commentary box. Might be worth mentioning there was radio commentary for most of the race and this was broadcast on the web too I believe. 93!! Sorry about the over estimate on my earlier post ;D

Don't be too hard on yourself Monkey with kids and other concessions the attendance probably did break into triple figures...

 ;)

I have to laugh that on the Silverstone Website the next event is the Bennets SuperBike Championship on the 16-17th of September????

Camping:-

Car + Tent or Motorhome/Caravan

In Advance:-

Thursday Arrival £40
Friday Arrival £30
Saturday Arrival £20
Sunday Arrival £10

On the Day:-

Thursday Arrival £45
Friday Arrival £35
Saturday Arrival £25
Sunday Arrival £15

Pitch With Electrics (Advance Booking Only)

Thursday Arrival £70
Friday Arrival £52.50
Saturday Arrival £35
Sunday Arrival £15

Motorbike and Tent

In Advance:-

Thursday Arrival £20
Friday Arrival £15
Saturday Arrival £10
Sunday Arrival £5

On the Day:-

Thursday Arrival £27.50
Friday Arrival £17.50
Saturday Arrival £12.50
Sunday Arrival £7.50

For Bookings Call on 01327 858092, they will send you a booking form.

It is about a 20 minute walk throught the woods to the circuit, provided the Grandstand gate is open.

If you've not bought your tickets yet there's a £5 off voucher on the eerc website http://www.eerc.co.uk/24hrsite/  makes the advance price £15!  Bargain, me thinks.

Hi all,

Went to this last year and thought it was a great event, can`t wait to go again, fortunatley a mate of mine has one of the paddock suites which overlooks the pit entrance, this is where we slept last year, not the most comfy of experiences but after a a few gallons of san miguel it was good enough.
see you there

So the names so far:-

RichUK
Bobblehat
Jason
MikeH
Powelly
R8KDJ
ME (Subject to not having to work this weekend)  >:(

What's the start time of the race?

any other support races?

The start time is Saturday at 1700 however there is Qualifying on Friday Night.

The Support Races are:-

Motor Racing Legends
Porsche Open/Club
Sports 2000 Pinto & Duratec
BritSports
Dutch Supercar Challenge


More can be found out at:-

http://eerc.co.uk/cms/news.php

Enjoy yourselves all - can't join in, as we will be racing in the BORC this weekend round Walter's Arena, Rheola and Resolfen in South Wales, otherwise I'd be there.   Looks like the makings of a good weekend, whatever the racing is like!   Weather forecast looks pretty good for this weekend too....

MG Mark

Yes once again Mark, good luck and WHY do we have to have all the good Motorsport on the same weekends.

Donnington LMES vs British GT's Brands Hatch
Le Mans vs Ring 24 hours
Britcar vs Offroad

I am sure that list can be added to! (probably corrected to though)

Just checked the weather forecast for the weekend and it is looking really good. As I mentioned earlier in the thread I really wish I was able to get to this event this year, the more support it gets the more chance there is of it becoming a regular part of the UK motor racing calendar. For all those going, I hope it is every bit as enjoyable as it was last year. I will repeat a word of warning however, last year the catering was virtually non existent and given the low turn out then, I can only assume that the caterers would be nervous about turning up again for this event. So probably best to carry some food and beer rations with you just in case. Enjoy.  ;D >:(

Right, I am now working on Saturday in London! Bugger but it will pay for the weekend!

I expect I will arrive at the circuit at 1900. I know I will miss the start and all the support races but it should still be fun!

See those of you that are going.

PM me if you want my mobile so we can arrange to meet up

NB the race will on the live radio channel Globecast (channel 0157 if you have a digibox.)  Likewise Petit Le Mans.  Makes pretty frustrating listening in my experience as there are no pics but better than nothing...?

They also have a website 0157.org! you can listen to it there aswell!

Please wish Rollcentre Shorty all the best from me if you run into him. He'll be there with the Mosler.

Yeap, plan to give my support to the team. Will do.

Cheers Rick, have a fun weekend.

Day! thanks to work!

hgb would you like us to drop a cake round?

That's a brilliant idea. I'm sure he will be very pleased.  ;D

And I see the Rollcentre Mosler's on pole ;D!  Is it my imagination, by the way or is there rather less of the good Mr Short these days?
The duller BMW (what a thought) is 2nd.

The aren't qualifying until tonight so I heard!

Well, I stand corrected but there are quali' times posted on dailysportcar now!  Perhaps just first quali?  Sorry. Still, a good omen nevertheless.
Yep - another session after dark.

I am gutted i cant come but im goin seein my family in Yorkshire. I remember The first time i camped at silverstone it was the LG super weekend in 2002 (FIA GT and loads more)And we couldn't camp in silverstone so we camped in a field near the Jordan F1 building lol

Any results ? The Britcar 24hs site doesn't show anything and the live timing is switched off.

Full weekend results can be found at MST

http://www.msttiming.com/eerc/2006/63663.pdf

Will everybody rush out and buy a Beemer now?

Thanks for the results, geoffd.

It was their first race in the new Z4, so not bad at all. Or did they enter the car in a VLN round before ?

Oh sh!t... Rollcentre is a DNF despite setting the fastest lap time of the race. It looks like they collect all the bad luck this season. Anyone know what happened ?

Good to see Willie on the podium, though.

Fuel pressure problems which dogged it throughout the race.  Finally conked out at Luffield but it had spent hours in the garage before this.

From what Shorty told me at about 11.30pm, They had a fuel problem in the first hour, blocked the fuel injectors with metal fileings! Then the wiring loom burnt through! He was not a happy chap, but he liked the cakes we dropped round.

I belive it was the BMW's 1st outing, but was basicly a factory effort, wich I throught was not quite in the sprite of the event. But it was a great day and we were able to wander in and out of garages and chat to the teams.

Though three and half hours safty car was not a lot of fun, but there was a a real pea souper of fog in the morning. The safty car was out for so long they had to bring it in and re-fuel it, I belive it was classed as being 23rd!!!!!

Oh dear poor RollCenter!

List of problems too long to list!!!

Metal in the fuel-   (Officials to investigate)
More then a fair share of Gearbox faults.

Hindy clearly stated that the team was recieving more then their share of bad luck! Lots of credit to the team as they were still out running the car all night and up until the 2200 hours time. When the car was running in the early morning they were over 300laps down!! BUT they still continued to race on untill the car finally finished itself off.

My credit goes to:-

RollCenter for the "Most Determined Effort"
Duller BMW for "bloody hell watch out Maser and Aston!"
Sawer and Trident "Buying a Golf GT TDI, finding the engine is knackered, buying a second hand one from a Scrap dealer and still finishing respectably 3rd in class and 15th overall!

Here is a photo of the winning car after the race. BTW it won with 16 laps clear!!! 6 hours before it was behind the Porsche of 911virgin by 3 laps!

Great weekend. Would have prefered Brands or Donny, but then there will never be enough room for all the teams.

Saw the motorhome parked behind the stands but didn't see you anywhere. Big circuit to have soo few people rattling around on!

Was very envious of you Rick et al.  Good to see they're going to carry on with the event.  Did you see any TV cameras there? - the radio is very frustrating as you can't even hear the cars - the booth seems to be very well soundproofed and Hindy even had problems seeing out of the window. Would be good if somebody had made at least a "round up" programme.

Sorry to have missed you, did keep an eye out for CA shirts. Spent most of Sunday being driven round by young Tom. Who was complaining that he could not heal and toe my Omega! :o

Got back late last night, I met Rick, but didn't get to meet any other CAers who were about.

The Duller BMW. The road car was officially released 4 weeks ago, 2 weeks ago the team phoned up JT/EERC and asked to enter a car - a new car, the thought was that it was new to the team, not to racing.

Damn fine weekend, damn good weather and racing, gallery to come soon but a teaser can be found: here (http://jgphotos-motorsport.fotopic.net/c1079733.html)

Didn't realise there was another Omega owner on the forum.

Mine's on eBay now though.

Bought a V6 3.2 Vectra. Seems OK so far.

Vectra V6 3.2..uhmmm....We have been thinking about compeating in next years race.....wouldnt mind if we borrow it for the weekend next september .............?

Sounds good Bob. Are you looking for volenteers for pit crew etc?

Oi!! You are NOT using my car for racing!!!  >:(

Spoil-sport.

Then why the hell do you want a 3.2 V6 in a Vectra?

Only fair thing to do which such motorized common cars is racing!

It's OK Smokie, any scratches will soon polish out (is the Demolition Derby pre or post race?)

You beat me to it!

Bob U, we have started looking into budgets for next years 24 hours race, but it all depends on what Tom does next year and how much F BMW eats at the budget (more than likely, all of it!). We got close to getting Tom a drive in this years race, but could not raise the budget. But it somthing that Tom and us would realy like to do. If we do go ahead all help will be gratefully recived.

Anyone else like to join in?

Ian I think for a few of the teams the demolition derby was in the wee dark hours, dont worry smokie you can get duct/tank tape in most colours, you will never notice............