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 :o, text and video posted on crash.net

Glad to see everybody is OK

Theres a lot to be said for the strength and safety of race cars these days after some of the shunts we've seen this year  :o

At least the spectators got what they came for!

Glad he and the others are OK

What would you expect from the Idiot Racing League.  When you have cars running on rev limited engines, and spec aero setups, around a high banked oval, this is what you get.  Dumbest f**k*ng racing series in the world.
Fax

Each to your own Fax ! But boy is Dario a lucky lad .

Your right Chris, to each his own...but its still the dumbest f**k*ng racing (if you can call it that) series in the world.  Looked like there were about two hundred people at MIS to watch Dario's act.  Wish that series would fall into a great black hole and vanish forever.   The Idiot Racing League races next week at the Kentucky Speedway, Marlboro is once again giving away tickets to anyone who will buy a pack of smoke's in a attempt to put butt's in seats.  I suspect cardboard cut-outs of spectators are next.
Fax

I wonder how Dario's wife feels about him racing only for the money, in front of no one.

Everyone knows those cars are deathtraps, yet nothing's been done.  The issue isn't how safe they are because he didn't die, the issue is how dangerous they are for getting airborne like that on a regular basis.  Kenny Brack, Buddy Rice, Tony Renna, Mario Andretti, Marco Andretti, Sam Hornish - all airborne, some with disastrous consequences.  They choose not to address the problem.

Examine the injury records of the IRL.  It's truly apalling.

I am so glad, we don't get to see any of these races over in Europe on regular TV channels.

He's making a habit of this, he did it again in Kentucky. Thankfully he walked away from it again. A very sheepish interview on the news.

He did it after the end of the race as well ???

well thats a big one!

Must say i quite enjoyed Indy Car the year Mansell did it and won, especially the race on his birthday when he got out at the end having won the race and was covered with vomit as he felt a bit ill.

Linky is :

http://www.indycar.com/news/story.php?story_id=9699

Yes, he did it again!  I couldn't believe it was happening again when I saw it live.  I think he got "bigger air" this time.... 

He appologized to the other driver saying he didn't realize the checked flag had flown.  His nose hit the tire of the car in front when it slowed after the race was over.

Once again, another flying IRL car.  When one of these finally lands in the crowd (and one will eventually), its going to screw up the sport for all of us.  Tony Renna's fatal testing accident at Indy mercifully happened when there was nobody in the stands the car landed in, killing himself, which is about four hundred less than would have been killed had it been race day.  They found he, and his car in peices.  Again, the dumbest racing(?) series on the planet!
Hey y'all, lets go watch a Indycar race to see if someone will get airbourne today....Yeesh!
What the f**k was Dario thinking?  What a dumb-ass!  Oh well, Ashley can buy him some more helicopters to make him feel better.
fax

Fax, this is getting boring now. Get down off your high horse before you fall off and hurt yourself.

Funny that you claim 400 people would be killed when according to you, there is only about 200 at each race. Stands looked pretty full to me, and the crowd was also pretty healthy at Homestead when i went. I seem to recall you said i would be there on my own. That being the case, then why did it take me an hour to get out afterwards.

Cars can fly in any open wheel sport and i don't see you slagging off sprint cars that also regularly flip out of race tracks. Might happen in F1 too if they weren't so processional.

Yes Dario claimed responsibility but in my opinion it was 50 / 50 as Matsura shouldn't have slowed down so soon after crossing the line as the cars behind are still racing to the flag too. The closing speed and the reaction time is next to nothing so thats why it happened.

You might think it the dumbest racing series in the world but i love it and I love the close racing. Cart for me has lost the plot and all interest from me.

But then i have been brought up watching oval racing since i was a month old.  So Fax, if you don't like the IRL, then don't watch it, just don't keep coming on here publicly slagging it every week.  Its getting tired.

As you say Chris, everyone is entitled to their opinion.  Great, you love spec racing that tries to pass itself off for what was once a great discipline of the sport, good for you.  I (and Chop) still think its complete crap. As for my statement regarding the number of people at Indy, yes the 500 still draws a big crowd, a fraction of what it used to be, but by any other standards still a big crowd.  As for Sprint Cars leaving the ballpark?  They are not travelling at 210 MPH, and when they go out of the park, its in places where there is no fencing, because there are no spectators in the area!  I didn't watch the race Chris, had better things to do, like clean the toilet, I saw Dario's flying act on the news.  Trust me, I've been following oval track racing longer than you, and have seen alot more of it in person, hence the reason I think the IRL is the utter garbage that it is.  Talked to a guy in the know at Kentucky Speedway, he estimates there were actaully about 15,000 paying spectators there, the rest were complimentary and promotional passes.
Fax

Chris - the disrespect for the league isn't also directed at you.  If I had to guess, I'd think that you're most likely younger than I am (and much younger than Fax  ;D ), and maybe weren't around during the halcyon days of a balanced schedule, big money and full fields in CART.  In Tony's drug-addled mind, what was wrong with CART was that he wasn't in charge and he's lied about his motivations since day one.  Every one of his supposed founding principles was a lie and what he's left in charge of is a pile of steaming something that nobody wants.   He's cut off his nose to spite his face and if not for nascar, F1 and now MotoGP, he'd be forced to face the financial reality.

He's trampled the USAC people he pretended to champion, all while selling out to the factory interests he professed to be saving the little guys from.  He's quite literally become everything he and his toadies railed against during the first 7-8 years of the split.  He single-handedly destoyed what was a very successful open wheel racing climate in the U.S. purely for the sake of power and greed and there are those of us who won't forget what he's done - ever.

Fax,

That Tony George is a world class idiot bar none is a given. That the IRL is but a pathetic shadow of it's former self is also a universal truth. I rarely watch it these days (although I did see the Rolex Daytona Prototypes on TV last night and thought it was very soft and safe and therefore slightly laughable). But I do keep vague tabs on what's going on.

But I have to say that cars fly off the track in all sorts of motor racing, most recently I need only mention Kubica in Canada. People moan that F1 has way too much downforce but that doesn't stop the cars getting airborn sometimes. Thus I don't really agree with your contention that it wouldn't happen if the commercial and regulatory circumstances surrounding IRL were more ideal. Life generally isn't that straight forward and racing certainly isn't.

Hi Andy,
Yes, racing cars do become airbourne form time to time, especially involving single seaters.  My gripe is that its become almost a every week occurance with the IRL, and eventually something really awful is going to happen.  They dodged a bullet with Renna's fatal accident at Indy, the car went OVER a thirty foot high debris fence, landed in the first ten rows of the Northeast Vista, wiping out the seats there (if you go there you can see how many rows were replaced).  The rear of Dario's car landed on top of the wall at Kentucky Speedway, another three feet and it lands in the fencing separating the cars from the crowd.
Fax