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Club Arnage => General Discussion => Topic started by: Kev_mk3 on February 07, 2008, 05:47:43 pm



Title: People Of France - help required
Post by: Kev_mk3 on February 07, 2008, 05:47:43 pm
Is there a website like our Autotrader site over here as im looking for a specific car over in france but am not having much joy.

Any help would be great :)

Kev


Title: Re: People Of France - help required
Post by: Paddy_NL on February 07, 2008, 05:50:59 pm
google.fr? ;)


Title: Re: People Of France - help required
Post by: Kpy on February 07, 2008, 05:54:03 pm
You could start with these:

http://www.autoreflex.com/

http://www.argusauto.com/occasion/

http://www.annonceauto.net/


Title: Re: People Of France - help required
Post by: Kev_mk3 on February 07, 2008, 06:01:10 pm
thanks folks


Title: Re: People Of France - help required
Post by: rcutler on February 07, 2008, 06:01:58 pm
What are you after I am over there now. Office closed at 4pm now all i can think about is beer!


Title: Re: People Of France - help required
Post by: Steve Pyro on February 07, 2008, 06:05:44 pm
What are you after I am over there now. Office closed at 4pm now all i can think about is beer!


Not thinking about accommodating women Rick?



Title: Re: People Of France - help required
Post by: Kev_mk3 on February 07, 2008, 06:12:52 pm
What are you after I am over there now. Office closed at 4pm now all i can think about is beer!

nothing special really, just a cheap astra estate or something for a run about over there for the parents. it will just be left in the garage while where in the uk and when at the house it will be used to get about, go the tip etc!


Title: Re: People Of France - help required
Post by: rcutler on February 07, 2008, 06:24:23 pm
What are you after I am over there now. Office closed at 4pm now all i can think about is beer!


Not thinking about accommodating women Rick?



Been here for two days none have really caught my eye. :-\ Must be the region.


Title: Re: People Of France - help required
Post by: nopanic - neil on February 07, 2008, 06:38:17 pm
What are you after I am over there now. Office closed at 4pm now all i can think about is beer!


Not thinking about accommodating women Rick?



Been here for two days none have really caught my eye. :-\ Must be the region.


Rick - Why are you throwing you glass eye at the girls again?   ;D


Title: Re: People Of France - help required
Post by: termietermite on February 07, 2008, 06:47:30 pm
Many second hand cars are sold from people's driveways (not considered anything like as dodgy as that would be in the UK.)  Alternatively, I've got a couple of second hand cars for friends over here by asking my local garage and he did the searching for me.  The advantage of this is that he's prepared to guarantee them for a few months and finds what I want.  You'll have a lot more luck if you go for a froggy make as they're much more common.

You could also look here: http://www.totalfrance.com/france/classified.php?catid=10&subcatid=107

Whereabouts is your parents' place, btw?


Title: Re: People Of France - help required
Post by: Bas on February 07, 2008, 06:57:12 pm
Some good advice would be to have Kpy find a car for you.

When I first met him back in 2003 he was driving the grey (errr silver) Alfa Romeo featured in his avatar.
The thing was nothing but trouble and I gave it 6 months tops back then.  ;)

Much to my amazement he was still driving that car at many a 24 Heures after that and it probably is still doing fine.

So my advice PM Kpy  ;D


Title: Re: People Of France - help required
Post by: Robspot on February 07, 2008, 06:57:40 pm
nothing special really, just a cheap astra estate

Well there's a shock  ;D


Title: Re: People Of France - help required
Post by: Paddy_NL on February 07, 2008, 07:06:50 pm
At least buy something French. Plenty more around than German - or whatever other make of cars, so probably more price-friendly too. Then again, second hand cars in France seem to be pretty expensive anyway.
French people tend to keep hold of them untill they fall apart completely :-\


Title: Re: People Of France - help required
Post by: JDS on February 07, 2008, 10:35:17 pm
What are you after I am over there now. Office closed at 4pm now all i can think about is beer!

nothing special really, just a cheap astra estate or something for a run about over there for the parents. it will just be left in the garage while where in the uk and when at the house it will be used to get about, go the tip etc!
Does it have to be LHD? Second hand cars are WAY cheaper in the UK than in France. I have two 'runabouts' which live at various airports for when I'm commuting in/out of the land of hoppy leged ones. A 1999 Citroen Xsara in perfect nick for which I paid the princely sum of £700 and a 1999 Renault Megane (with lots of electric things, working A/C and alloys), again in excellent condition and it cost me a miserly £470 !! Both these cars would be well over €2500 in France. As Paddy says though, buy French, they don't cope well with other countries cars (took my wife 4 weeks to get the starter motor fixed on our V70!) and if left parked they just blend into the background so are completely anonymous.


Title: Re: People Of France - help required
Post by: Lord Pig-Pen on February 07, 2008, 10:39:22 pm
At least buy something French. Plenty more around than German - or whatever other make of cars, so probably more price-friendly too. Then again, second hand cars in France seem to be pretty expensive anyway.
French people tend to keep hold of them untill they fall apart completely :-\
Anything french and diesel.... if you can prise the keys from their hand.
As Paddy said, The French seem to hang on to their old bangers until they die and all the stuff I have seen for sale on the roadside seemed to be very steep compared to old bangers over here.
I have just bought a P plate 1800 Diesel Escort of a nutter down the lane which will be legal soon..... should you be interested! ;) Its cheap!!!!


Title: Re: People Of France - help required
Post by: Rusty on February 07, 2008, 10:52:19 pm
Rick - Why are you throwing you glass eye at the girls again?   ;D

If you will keep hangiiing around Notre Dame ringing those goddam f**k*ng bells man, ain't nothing gonna happen. Get a hood or something and stop scaring them off. :D


Title: Re: People Of France - help required
Post by: Lord Pig-Pen on February 07, 2008, 10:56:53 pm
What are you after I am over there now. Office closed at 4pm now all i can think about is beer!

nothing special really, just a cheap astra estate or something for a run about over there for the parents. it will just be left in the garage while where in the uk and when at the house it will be used to get about, go the tip etc!
Does it have to be LHD? Second hand cars are WAY cheaper in the UK than in France. I have two 'runabouts' which live at various airports for when I'm commuting in/out of the land of hoppy leged ones. A 1999 Citroen Xsara in perfect nick for which I paid the princely sum of £700 and a 1999 Renault Megane (with lots of electric things, working A/C and alloys), again in excellent condition and it cost me a miserly £470 !! Both these cars would be well over €2500 in France. As Paddy says though, buy French, they don't cope well with other countries cars (took my wife 4 weeks to get the starter motor fixed on our V70!) and if left parked they just blend into the background so are completely anonymous.
Posted as I posted mine... spooky!
Buy French over here and take it over... 205 or 405 oiler. Loads of spares in scrappys, cheap parts and no electric rubbish to worry about. And they will run on cooking oil mixed 50/50 with cheap french diesel.

I always had a thought in my mind while driving to LM in a variety of Nissan 300C's, even with full breakdown cover, if she breaks down, what hope is there if UK dealers cant get parts!!


Title: Re: People Of France - help required
Post by: Lord Pig-Pen on February 07, 2008, 10:59:18 pm
Rick - Why are you throwing you glass eye at the girls again?   ;D

If you will keep hangiiing around Notre Dame ringing those goddam f**k*ng bells man, ain't nothing gonna happen. Get a hood or something and stop scaring them off. :D
And a gas mask... will lessen the garlic fumes from any potential victim that actually talks to you! ;D


Title: Re: People Of France - help required
Post by: Kev_mk3 on February 08, 2008, 10:21:32 am
Whereabouts is your parents' place, btw?
They have a house in a place called “savigne sous le lude” from what I remember – I know its in between lu lude & la Fleche, I just drive there to be honest!! its about 10 mile from Lemans I think ( see link below )

http://www.multimap.com/maps/?hloc=FR|la%20lude#t=l&map=47.61667,0.06667|14|4&loc=FR:47.61667:0.06667:14|savigne%20sous%20le%20lude|Savign%C3%A9-sous-le-Lude,%20Pays%20de%20la%20Loire,%20D%C3%A9partement%20de%20la%20Sarthe



nothing special really, just a cheap astra estate

Well there's a shock  ;D


I know them like the back of my hand as I run a owners club so parts are easy for me lol think he is going to buy a new clio over there tho


Title: Re: People Of France - help required
Post by: termietermite on February 08, 2008, 10:33:02 am
Then they are probably around an hour away from me so I'll keep an eye out round here - less hassle if it has a 72 plate (although that won't apply for long as the department numbers are being scrapped).  But it's true, if they can bear to have the steering wheel on the wrong side, then rhd's are way cheaper - the import process is a bit lugubrious (French bureaucrats get involved and whammo!) but do-able.  Any idea of budget?


Title: Re: People Of France - help required
Post by: Kev_mk3 on February 08, 2008, 11:41:46 am
Then they are probably around an hour away from me so I'll keep an eye out round here - less hassle if it has a 72 plate (although that won't apply for long as the department numbers are being scrapped).  But it's true, if they can bear to have the steering wheel on the wrong side, then rhd's are way cheaper - the import process is a bit lugubrious (French bureaucrats get involved and whammo!) but do-able.  Any idea of budget?
well spoke to dad and basically he has bought his company car as he got it for a steal. he can use that then when he goes to france for good he will buy something over there :)


bloody parents  ::)


Title: Re: People Of France - help required
Post by: Andy Zarse on February 08, 2008, 12:05:32 pm
nothing special really, just a cheap astra estate

Well there's a shock  ;D

My thoughts entirely and I admire the devotion to the cause. But why on earth would anyone want a ghastly old built-to-a-budget boneshaker like a Mk3 Astra estate when similar money puts you in an properly sophisticated turbodiesel Citroen estate with a magic carpet ride? It's lunacy on any logical basis.


Title: Re: People Of France - help required
Post by: JDS on February 09, 2008, 08:44:38 am
Then they are probably around an hour away from me so I'll keep an eye out round here - less hassle if it has a 72 plate (although that won't apply for long as the department numbers are being scrapped).  But it's true, if they can bear to have the steering wheel on the wrong side, then rhd's are way cheaper - the import process is a bit lugubrious (French bureaucrats get involved and whammo!) but do-able.  Any idea of budget?
TBH, I found it pretty simple, the worst bit being the CT when he tried to explain that he had let it through even though the lights were a little low (now fixed, it was like driving with a candle on the front!). Just a few forms to fill in (one's even free!) and a few hundred euros overall and Bob's your mother's brother... Just keeps it that little bit more innocious when in a carpark full of other French cars and saves having to take it back to the UK each year to tax/MOT it.


Title: Re: People Of France - help required
Post by: Paddy_NL on February 09, 2008, 02:14:08 pm
the import process is a bit lugubrious (French bureaucrats get involved and whammo!) but do-able. 

That's why you're better off with French cars. My old company car is a Seat Inca, which is a rebadged VW Caddy. After we replaced it here, we shipped it over to France to become my mum's shopping trolley. The Seat Inca has never been imported to France, as they're basically saying it doesn't exist. So my mum's shopping trolly still drives around with Dutch plates.
Complica'ed :-\


Title: Re: People Of France - help required
Post by: termietermite on February 09, 2008, 02:24:29 pm
Certainly, the most complicated business for us was getting the European certificate of conformity (the Skoda was very funny - Skoda France saying get it from the UK and Skoda UK vice-versa - we eventually prised it out of the British end.  With the Landy, it came from Landrover France - go figure.)  The problem with British registered cars in the France is that if they are not exported, UK insurance companies will often wriggle out of their obligations to settle a claim (not a worry if you don't actually live here, but a total no-no if you pretend you live in the UK but don't actually do so.)  With any average car, the process of importation is pretty simple, but the cost varies according to CV ratings so the less powerful it is, the cheaper it gets.


Title: Re: People Of France - help required
Post by: JDS on February 13, 2008, 09:53:32 am
the import process is a bit lugubrious (French bureaucrats get involved and whammo!) but do-able.

That's why you're better off with French cars. My old company car is a Seat Inca, which is a rebadged VW Caddy. After we replaced it here, we shipped it over to France to become my mum's shopping trolley. The Seat Inca has never been imported to France, as they're basically saying it doesn't exist. So my mum's shopping trolly still drives around with Dutch plates.
Complica'ed :-\
strangely, after reading this I have been behind two VW Caddy's and three SEAT Inca's on the way to work in the last few days !!!


Title: Re: People Of France - help required
Post by: Kev_mk3 on February 13, 2008, 10:07:08 am
did they sell the SEAT Inca in england?


Title: Re: People Of France - help required
Post by: JDS on February 13, 2008, 10:19:22 am
did they sell the SEAT Inca in england?
Certainly did - all of these had UK reg and were RHD ...


Title: Re: People Of France - help required
Post by: Kev_mk3 on February 13, 2008, 11:35:45 am
did they sell the SEAT Inca in england?
Certainly did - all of these had UK reg and were RHD ...
it was that shape caddy was it, Hhmmmmmmmmm thought it was the OLD skool Caddy

like -

(http://users.telenet.be/busman/afbeeldingen/wp860e2d02.png)


Title: Re: People Of France - help required
Post by: JDS on February 13, 2008, 11:49:12 am
Nope, all small (high payload) panel vans - kinda like a Transit Connect these days I guess ???


Title: Re: People Of France - help required
Post by: LangTall on February 13, 2008, 01:13:41 pm
hardly recognisable, but there is a SEAT Inca in te picture... (DfH in 2004)
(http://gallery.drinkingforholland.com/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=3974&g2_serialNumber=1)
And here a bit overdone one:
(http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/6177/1autonaverlagenklein8yj.jpg)


Title: Re: People Of France - help required
Post by: Lord Pig-Pen on February 13, 2008, 11:19:08 pm
I thought the "Bling" Caddy/Inca looks ok... better than the usual rust blistered hulks... like I took to LM last year!
Give me one of the early pick up ones anyday, slammed (Lowered) on BBS wheels with a 16v GTi lump in it!!!... in House of colour Candy apple pink! ;D


Title: Re: People Of France - help required
Post by: Kev_mk3 on February 14, 2008, 10:35:16 am
I thought the "Bling" Caddy/Inca looks ok... better than the usual rust blistered hulks... like I took to LM last year!
Give me one of the early pick up ones anyday, slammed (Lowered) on BBS wheels with a 16v GTi lump in it!!!... in House of colour Candy apple pink! ;D
here is my friends - built from the ground up with his own hands in the garage ( paint the lot! )

(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a74/kev_mk3/vw%20leeds%20festival/KevsCars147.jpg)

(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a74/kev_mk3/vw%20leeds%20festival/KevsCars151.jpg)