Club Arnage
Club Arnage => General Discussion => Topic started by: Boorish Grobian on March 18, 2008, 11:59:51 pm
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This thing should win some kind of prize for butt-ulgy. Just when you thought the Daytona Prototypes couldn't get anymore hideous?
The new Dallara Grand-Am device...
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This thing should win some kind of prize for butt-ulgy. Just when you thought the Daytona Prototypes couldn't get anymore hideous?
The new Dallara Grand-Am device...
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Sportier but similar looks to the old light blue AC invalide carriage with an extra wheel!!!!!!!
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I'll probably get burnt at dawn for saying this......but why do so many American series race cars look so old fashioned and lacking in innovation. They might produce close racing, but they are just not interesting to look at.
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Built to cost control rules that make things that should be a joy to behold something to turnaway from.
In 20 or 50 years if one of these turns up in a barn with the most impressive race history possible, no one will give a toss and will just close the barn door and let it rot away.
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I'll probably get burnt at dawn for saying this......but why do so many American series race cars look so old fashioned and lacking in innovation.
Because 95% of Americans like crap racing and crap racing cars.
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95% of Americans like crap, period.
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Only ever saw pic's/vid's of this alfa but always thought it was a bit ugly especially for and alfa
(http://www.supercars.net/carpics/26/1975_AlfaRomeo_333TT121.jpg)
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WTF where they thinking!!(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a74/kev_mk3/smiles/tfg.gif)(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a74/kev_mk3/smiles/disgusting.gif)
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Looks like they are trying to put a pig snout on it, maybe it is built for mud racing?
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The Alfa I could live with.
But I would have to do something slightly better with badge arrangement.
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Could it be a Smart, with a massive body kit?
It does look like a randon selection of body panels thrown together, and Ugly
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I realize that the Daytona Prototypes have to be built to a very specific set of regulations (cockpit dimensions, height & width, etc.) but this thing looks like a rolling turd. How did Dallara's design staff take the Grand-Am regulations and come up with that? Grand-Am is NASCAR's idea of what sportscar racing should be, meaning spec car racing, but this stands out from the rest by its shear ugliness
Personally I like the original Alfa T33, but it did get a bit slab-sided as it was developed, the photo looks like the 1974 incarnation.
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5% reporting ;D
these rolex daytona prototypes have always looked like smushed LMP's
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95% of Americans like crap, period.
???
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It's OK randy. I'm certain you all into the accceptable 5%
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I think it looks cool... but then I am not really in a position to comment, being a Chavalier driver ;D and a fan of Japans biggest ugliest most horrid... the Nissan 300C.
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The Alfa I could live with.
But I would have to do something slightly better with badge arrangement.
How about this one? Just before they got too slab sided?
(http://www.zul-racing.com/images/JonT33.jpg)
Buck
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Gorgeous!
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Yep. That will do.
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How anyone could compare the Alfa 33 with the DP Dallara is beyond me.
It looks (and sounds) lovely.
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The Alfa I could live with.
But I would have to do something slightly better with badge arrangement.
How about this one? Just before they got too slab sided?
Now that is what a racing car should look like ;D
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;D
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(http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mark.saxby/marcos/duckling.jpg)
I'm a big fan of Frank Costin, but even the best get it wrong sometimes.
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(http://fotos.iher.net/76bra26v%20Laffite%20Ligier%20JS5.jpg)
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That just looks like a smurf on wheels :o
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I wasn't comparing it too the dallara i was just saying that in the incarnation i pictured that it was a bit ugly to short on the nose and slab sided, i know it sounds lovely but compared to most alfa's it's not pretty is it?
How anyone could compare the Alfa 33 with the DP Dallara is beyond me.
It looks (and sounds) lovely.
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I think most of the prototypes from the mid 70's followed the same design, gone were the curves of the late 60's and very early 70's that spawned the 917. 512 and Matras and early 33T's.
The later 33T, Mirage GR7, Lola 380 and the 2 litre cars of the era all shared the flat slab like sides.
It was not until the late 70s when the 936, and Renault Alpines arrived that curves were back in fashion.
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I always thought the late seventies Alpine Renaults were about as lovely as it gets, with the Porsche 936's in their Martini colors not far behind. Just simply very evocative machines. As Nordic well said, in thirty years no one will give a rats ass about "historic" Daytona Prototypes. Better off tearing them apart and throwing on the scrap heap.
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Amen to that, the 936 and Alpine were the cars around when I first went to a sportscar race. Both classic designs of the era that looked lovely, but Deisel bashers take note, sounded very muted after the screaming DFV's and BMW 6's. A bit like the R10 and 908.
They also crushed to opposition in the same way.
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I'm just like any other red blooded male then
I like curves !! :D
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Funny thing about the "Smurf On Wheels", it was such an outrageous design. Look at every F1 car now, with the exception of the odd bit of flap here, or board here, they all look the same! The Ligier's weren't always pretty, but they were always colorful & different, and sometimes they really did fly...if only for a few races. Sacre Blue! ;D
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95% of Americans like crap, period.
I guess that must be the reason why they enjoy the Dutch visiting them each year ;D ;D ;D ;D
Those at Sebring are the other 5% ;D
(if not, they would be at NASCRAP in stead of ALMS now wouldn't they :angel: )
