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Title: Virtual Le Mans - 13/14 June
Post by: ewan on April 21, 2020, 12:59:26 pm
Who's up for staging a distributed, virtual Le Mans 24h, on the weekend of 13/14th June?

Camping in your own back garden, not washing for a few days, eating mergeuz-equivalents washed down with stubbies of warm lager?

Someone might even stream an old race "as live", and with a bit of Zoom or Skype, collectives could form to talk pish every hour or so...


Title: Re: Virtual Le Mans - 13/14 June
Post by: Steve Pyro on April 23, 2020, 10:41:34 am
Well I've got plenty of meat and beer standing by.  Shaving seems to be a thing of the past anyway so that just leaves the camping bit.  Plus I could rev up the engine of the cobra once in a while  ;D Sounds like a plan.


Title: Re: Virtual Le Mans - 13/14 June
Post by: Kev_mk3 on April 23, 2020, 02:10:27 pm
It sounds like a good excuse to make a den in the living room to watch a Le Mans race (I vote '89) as my current garden i cant fit my tent in. If my house purchase completes before then, then I can camp!


Title: Re: Virtual Le Mans - 13/14 June
Post by: lofty on April 23, 2020, 06:28:19 pm
I loved to see your neighbors faces when fireworks are going off all weekend people pissing up against every thing.blokes wandering down their street at 9am drinking.weird people in fancy dress.i can see it now.ive got 700 pints of homebrew in stock but no mates to share it with.my virtual Le Mans might last all June.


Title: Re: Virtual Le Mans - 13/14 June
Post by: nopanic - neil on April 23, 2020, 11:49:02 pm
Sounds like plan - RV is locked away - so will just have to sit in one of those camping chairs and get drunk

Seems like a good crazy idea  ;D

So yes


Title: Re: Virtual Le Mans - 13/14 June
Post by: Kev_mk3 on April 24, 2020, 06:12:21 pm
Sounds like plan - RV is locked away - so will just have to sit in one of those camping chairs and get drunk

Seems like a good crazy idea  ;D

So yes

Isn't that what you call wednesday usually?  ???


Title: Re: Virtual Le Mans - 13/14 June
Post by: Truck on April 24, 2020, 09:20:01 pm
Sounds like plan - RV is locked away - so will just have to sit in one of those camping chairs and get drunk...….
I'm not allowed to get the caravan from storage, but I have the camping chairs, a gazebo and an old portapotti, so I'm all set up.


Title: Re: Virtual Le Mans - 13/14 June
Post by: Barry on April 25, 2020, 01:17:47 pm
Not sure if SWMBO will be happy if I'm pissed for 5 days, drinking cider for breakfast and pissing up against the garden fence!
She knows such things go on, she's been to LM but I think her attitude might be different on our own doorstep, so to speak.


Title: Re: Virtual Le Mans - 13/14 June
Post by: lofty on April 25, 2020, 09:16:33 pm
Barry just go for it and tell her the big boys made me do it.drinking 100drinks for the nhs.


Title: Re: Virtual Le Mans - 13/14 June
Post by: Truck on April 25, 2020, 09:47:18 pm
Hasn't she got a friend she can visit


Title: Re: Virtual Le Mans - 13/14 June
Post by: Barry on April 26, 2020, 11:33:53 am
drinking 100drinks for the nhs.

Now that's an idea!


Title: Re: Virtual Le Mans - 13/14 June
Post by: Lazy B'stard on May 04, 2020, 09:37:40 am
We did this one year we went to the classic rather than the 24 so as not to miss out. Set up our usual camp in his back garden, got drunk and watched on TV. We also set the playstation up with three drivers and did the full 24 in two hour stints. It was great fun. One person who shall not be named even pissed themselves after a few too many. Very authentic  ;D


Title: Re: Virtual Le Mans - 13/14 June
Post by: lofty on May 23, 2020, 06:55:09 pm
 The aco,fia and some other Motorsport thingy are holding an esport virtual 24 hour race which will be streamed.the drivers and cars announced next week.it seems it might be quiet good with pro drivers and pro gamers.that bloke from Portugal did well in real cars after the playstation Nissan thing.any race is better than no race I suppose.fingers crossed for September.nogaro had racing a while ago so it can be done.


Title: Re: Virtual Le Mans - 13/14 June
Post by: lofty on June 07, 2020, 04:59:57 pm
dj the avener will be playing his set at 23.00 cst on 13th june during the live streaming virtual le mans. well give them creidt for going the whole hog. we even get a virtual live coverband of an actual sh*t real virtual band.


Title: Re: Virtual Le Mans - 13/14 June
Post by: Lazy B'stard on June 08, 2020, 12:11:07 pm
It wouldn't be Le Mans without a sh*t band who we have never heard of  ;D


Title: Re: Virtual Le Mans - 13/14 June
Post by: lofty on June 08, 2020, 08:09:18 pm
I was thinking which virtual non celeb would be waving the virtual tricolore to start the race.mr blobby perhaps.


Title: Re: Virtual Le Mans - 13/14 June
Post by: Lorry on June 08, 2020, 08:50:19 pm
Perfect choice.  Mr Blobby made several big impacts in 1997, and probably needs the money


Title: Re: Virtual Le Mans - 13/14 June
Post by: Lazy B'stard on June 09, 2020, 12:21:47 pm
I was thinking which virtual non celeb would be waving the virtual tricolore to start the race.mr blobby perhaps.

Probably that Chris Martin and his f**king guitar. He usually turns up everywhere else. He must be bored shitless at the moment.


Title: Re: Virtual Le Mans - 13/14 June
Post by: lofty on June 09, 2020, 05:59:08 pm
sh*t virtual band,crap celeb flag person,l hope it farkin rains all weekend and the virtual beer is sh*t aswell.        And make it allnice for September.please.


Title: Re: Virtual Le Mans - 13/14 June
Post by: Lazy B'stard on June 10, 2020, 09:23:31 am
sh*t virtual band,crap celeb flag person,l hope it farkin rains all weekend and the virtual beer is sh*t aswell.        And make it allnice for September.please.

I've a funny feeling its going to run behind closed doors in September  :-\


Title: Re: Virtual Le Mans - 13/14 June
Post by: lofty on June 10, 2020, 08:11:31 pm
50,000-100,000 perhaps.


Title: Re: Virtual Le Mans - 13/14 June
Post by: lofty on June 13, 2020, 04:52:43 pm
Tony Parker a basketball megastar started the race.never heard of him.


Title: Re: Virtual Le Mans - 13/14 June
Post by: ewan on June 14, 2020, 03:23:17 pm
well, I didn't have the social engagement that I started this thread thinking about.. but the virtual 24H race was very enjoyable - not as good as the real thing, but I thought it was highly impressive. The coverage was great, the racing was really good too.

I could imagine this kind of thing could carry on - imagine if you had a physical Le Mans in June and a virtual Le Mans in February or something - could be a good way of sharpening up some of the teams and drivers.

The virtual experience would be better if there was some kind of actual pitstop (rather than cars just sitting still for some period of time), and if the damage done by crashing was visible - so if you pile into a tyre wall, you'd expect bodywork to be flailing about as you limp back to the pits...

Now the Virtual 24h has been done, I fully expect the ACO to announce that the real one will have no spectators... if it happens at all...


Title: Re: Virtual Le Mans - 13/14 June
Post by: smokie on June 14, 2020, 05:33:48 pm
I watched some of it and was quite impressed. The graphics and car movement are really quite lifelike.


Title: Re: Virtual Le Mans - 13/14 June
Post by: Canada Phil on June 14, 2020, 08:51:40 pm
well, I didn't have the social engagement that I started this thread thinking about.. but the virtual 24H race was very enjoyable - not as good as the real thing, but I thought it was highly impressive. The coverage was great, the racing was really good too.

I could imagine this kind of thing could carry on - imagine if you had a physical Le Mans in June and a virtual Le Mans in February or something - could be a good way of sharpening up some of the teams and drivers.

The virtual experience would be better if there was some kind of actual pitstop (rather than cars just sitting still for some period of time), and if the damage done by crashing was visible - so if you pile into a tyre wall, you'd expect bodywork to be flailing about as you limp back to the pits...

Now the Virtual 24h has been done, I fully expect the ACO to announce that the real one will have no spectators... if it happens at all...

ewan,
         the computer boffins say what you are asking for , while possible, would take massive amounts of computing power. Only 50 cars for the same reason. Although we did not "see" damage the drivers apparently felt it.  The cars did at least go up on the jacks in pit lane.  IMSA has done some too but limited to fewer cars and only about an hour with  no pit stops or damage. I wonder if this was the longest duration simulation ever?
Phil                                                                           


Title: Re: Virtual Le Mans - 13/14 June
Post by: jimclark on June 14, 2020, 10:33:31 pm
It was announced as so, but I wonder if some "kids" (young or old) hadn't already....  I know I would have as a youngster had we had computers back in the 'x0s ((https://tentenths.com/forum/images/smilies/historics.gif)). I don't think they would have been able to handle 50 entries though.
 
As it was, one year, a few friends (5; 2 three driver teams. Kevin, Charlie and I; Ricky, Bill, and Joe) and I ran 12 and 24 hour races with our Aurora H.O. cars, mimicking Sebring and Le Mans as part of one of our "seasons".

Yes, 2 cots in our basement where the track was...2 could rest (not much sleepin' went on tho') while 2 drove and 2 marshalled; loo and meal breaks were our "yellows" and "reds"...). We had a ball..... (our family's weren't too happy but they saw their kids keeping out of trouble with a good hobby....). My mom was a great "caterer"... :)

It was a decent circuit also. Not 3 1/2 minute laps, more like 20 seconds, but a good variety of curves, straights, and, unlike S or LM, a couple of elevation changes..... The worse part was the lap counter only registered up to 99 laps so we had to remember to keep track and mark off each hundred as, of course, it would reset to zero. :(
Le Mans winners  turned 3900+ laps and Sebring 2200+ (no yellows or reds during Sebring, just snacks; and, go pee on your own time... ;))

'Glad we didn't do the "24 of Daytona" as we undoubtedly would not have done the other two. "Sebring" wasn't too bad, but after "le Mans", we swore we'd never do it again....(thus no Watkins Glen 6 Hour)..... :P ::) 'Just too much. It did give us something to look forward too with anticipation at the end of that school year as we couldn't pull it off during a normal school time weekend.

My team won both. 'Literally "home" track advantage? 'Prolly so....... :)


Title: Re: Virtual Le Mans - 13/14 June
Post by: Kev_mk3 on June 17, 2020, 10:28:19 am
I enjoyed it, I have been watching alot of esports since it arrived at Le Mans a few years back and taking part in some. Its not easy at all. Really is good to see it develop and a lot of big stars getting involved.


Title: Re: Virtual Le Mans - 13/14 June
Post by: ewan on June 17, 2020, 10:54:39 am
well, I didn't have the social engagement that I started this thread thinking about.. but the virtual 24H race was very enjoyable - not as good as the real thing, but I thought it was highly impressive. The coverage was great, the racing was really good too.

I could imagine this kind of thing could carry on - imagine if you had a physical Le Mans in June and a virtual Le Mans in February or something - could be a good way of sharpening up some of the teams and drivers.

The virtual experience would be better if there was some kind of actual pitstop (rather than cars just sitting still for some period of time), and if the damage done by crashing was visible - so if you pile into a tyre wall, you'd expect bodywork to be flailing about as you limp back to the pits...

Now the Virtual 24h has been done, I fully expect the ACO to announce that the real one will have no spectators... if it happens at all...

ewan,
         the computer boffins say what you are asking for , while possible, would take massive amounts of computing power. Only 50 cars for the same reason. Although we did not "see" damage the drivers apparently felt it.  The cars did at least go up on the jacks in pit lane.  IMSA has done some too but limited to fewer cars and only about an hour with  no pit stops or damage. I wonder if this was the longest duration simulation ever?
Phil                                                                           

Well, compute power is plentiful in some parts of the world... if the money is there...

If you're interested in the scale of these things, take a look at https://youtu.be/X-0V6bYfTpA?t=427
I've been in DB3, DB4 and DB5 - each of them is a step forward from the last, and they look like the closing scene in Raiders of the Lost Ark... just vast inside. Be in no doubt, if the demand was there and the funding could pay for it, we could have sim racing with more cars, photorealistic impact yadda yadda yadda.

The cool thing about this virtual 24h race was to show that there's more interest in this kind of racing - and that might mean more serious players with more $$ will get involved.

Who knows, in 30 years time when everything is electric, you might even find the only way to take part in noisy motorsport is to do it in simulators...


Title: Re: Virtual Le Mans - 13/14 June
Post by: jimclark on June 17, 2020, 01:35:33 pm
Who knows, in 30 years time when everything is electric, you might even find the only way to take part in noisy motorsport is to do it in simulators...

Sorrowfully, I believe there's a far greater probabilty than "might" in hearing no more than a high pitched "whirrrrr" in real auto racing's near future.......:(........(and, >:( at the tree huggers that will cause the ICE powerplant's demise in racing; the sport being an infinitesimal contributor of pollution.)


Title: Re: Virtual Le Mans - 13/14 June
Post by: Rhino on June 18, 2020, 08:11:20 pm
Being more of the engineer side I didn't like it. I watched a couple of laps and when the cars came into the empty pits and looked as though they were going up on jacks I turned off and watched Truth in 24hrs 1 and 2 on Youtube. I liked the in car but it did nothing for me. The pit stops and how the teams react is everthing at Le Mans to me


Title: Re: Virtual Le Mans - 13/14 June
Post by: Barry on June 21, 2020, 05:07:02 pm
I liked the in car but it did nothing for me. The pit stops and how the teams react is everything at Le Mans to me

Would totally agree with you there Rhino.
All a bit over hyped.
No matter how many times they say 'isn't this wonderful, just like the real thing' in the commentary, it's not.
It's a computer game.