Going Dutch!

[redstu]

I hate stuff like this

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=57&t=773683&mid=33826&nmt=RE:%20Dutch%20Sign%20Up%20For%20'Spy%20In%20The%20Sky'%20Tolls

whats the thoughts from the DFH crew?

[Paddy_NL]

whats the thoughts from the DFH crew?

They promised us to drop the road tax, and so we get to pay per driven mile. In a way it seems more honest, even though we will bound to have failing systems and inevitably people taken to court.
Btw, the 2012 date has already been postponed - changing laws take a long time here...

It's just another way of 'big brothering' us, even though the government is strongly in denial (you are applying for this job, but we have seen you oversleep at least two times a week). I see it just like the airmiles at the supermarket (how many crates of beer do you buy a week, sir?!), internet transactions (how much prawn do you watch a week, madam?) and the government admittance of tapping mobile phones in this country. But at least NL admits to the latter, while other countries do the same whilst keeping their mouth firmly shut

It's the future way of running countries, and I think we are slightly ahead of the rest of Europe. Guess the governments did learn something from the Stazi after all

[nopanic - neil]

no mobile phone tapping here  

http://www.daelnet.co.uk/features/menwithhill/

think it's just a big golf course.

[clkgtrlm1]

whats the thoughts from the DFH crew?

(how much prawn do you watch a week, madam?)

Love watching prawn

[F-Troop Mom]

I'd rather just pay the road taxes, thank you very much.  We already have it here on the Florida Turnpike (still voluntary at this time), you just go thru the toll booths without stopping and then they deduct the tolls from your card.

[Martini...LB]

I'd rather just pay the road taxes, thank you very much.  We already have it here on the Florida Turnpike (still voluntary at this time), you just go thru the toll booths without stopping and then they deduct the tolls from your card.

I had a problem on one of those many booth things around Florida, I thought I had paid ok but it did not work so I got a bill from the Hire Car company to the tune of 80 cents for the toll and $25 for the admin. I of course paid because I do not want to be blackballed by H Car companies. This was, luckily, when the £ was a bit stronger.

>Martini...LB

[Brad Zarse]

I don't mind paying by the mile, if they scrap fuel taxes.....  Works out better for me!

Chances of that happening?  Nil I suspect....

[JDS]

..... still voluntary at this time.....

How does that work then? Does anyone actually pay anything?

[garyfrogeye]

I know it's an old chesnut but it would (i imagine) be so simple to scrap all the roads tax duties and simply add it to fuel charges.
The more you use the road, the more you pay. The more uneconomical the vehicle, the more you pay. No insurance, they crush your car.
Am I oversimplifying this?

[redstu]

I know it's an old chesnut but it would (i imagine) be so simple to scrap all the roads tax duties and simply add it to fuel charges.
The more you use the road, the more you pay. The more uneconomical the vehicle, the more you pay. No insurance, they crush your car.
Am I oversimplifying this?

yes, but what about all the officials that administer the tax system, what would they be doing?

Well we need some cutbacks now anyway.

Tax on fuel and no road tax , its simple (too simple perhaps!)  its the way forward not more state surveilance!

The only beneficiaries would be the companies supplying the equipment and support and the mp s who advise them then ultimately end up on the boards of the same companies earning thousands for a few hours work.

[Lorry]

There has to be a vehicle registration system, so that they know who to send the parking tickets to, if its got an MOT and that its not a tax free import

Is it Switzerland, where the number plate is issued to a person, rather than the car.  That might work, but your driving licence would then cost £100 a year, and you couldn't tell how old a car was from the plate and..........

[JDS]

......and you couldn't tell how old a car was from the plate and..........

Why do we need to do that? I've never really got why we are so hung up on that in the UK. My UK car's reg bears no relationship at all to when it was made/registered.

Our French cars end in '17' as that's the area that we live in but there is no way to tell how old it is, indeed, until this year, all cars got a new reg no there when transferred to a new owner anyhow.

Personally, I like the idea of not have an age identifier on the no plate as it stops the artificial swaying of the market around March & Sept and all the 'mine's newer than yours' rubbish.

[tn*c]

It is very usefull with regard to spotting stolen cars. A Vauxhall C(h)avalier using 58 Plates for example could be stopped without needing to run it through a computer system.

[Robspot]

It is very usefull with regard to spotting stolen cars. A Vauxhall C(h)avalier using 58 Plates for example could be stopped without needing to run it through a computer system.

Two points. Firstly why would anyone steal a cavalier? Secondly if anyone did steal a cavalier why on earth would they put 58 plates on it?

[Barry]

It is very usefull with regard to spotting stolen cars. A Vauxhall C(h)avalier using 58 Plates for example could be stopped without needing to run it through a computer system.

Two points. Firstly why would anyone steal a cavalier? Secondly if anyone did steal a cavalier why on earth would they put 58 plates on it?

That's west Berkshire for you. Similar to Norfolk