Anyone around Heathrow today?

[Fax]

Hi Spider,
Agreed, the 747 had a lot of detractors as well, and the old nail's been flying for a long time now.  I guess the real determining factor will be moving people vs the soaring cost of fuel.  The Airbus will carry around twice the passengers as the 787 but will burn alot more fuel.  Personally I think they will both fill their somewhat different niches nicely.
As long as one of them will get me to Le Mans & Sebring
Fax

[Lorry]

Aren't the 787 and the A380 just modern/bigger replacements for the 7thingy7 and 747.

Every piece of tarmac is western europe gets 3 planes a day, from Easyjet, from nothing a few years ago.  They use secondhand 737s, from the US.  This must be the bottom of the food chain.

[Ferrari Spider]

Hi Spider,
Agreed, the 747 had a lot of detractors as well, and the old nail's been flying for a long time now.  I guess the real determining factor will be moving people vs the soaring cost of fuel.  The Airbus will carry around twice the passengers as the 787 but will burn alot more fuel.  Personally I think they will both fill their somewhat different niches nicely.
As long as one of them will get me to Le Mans & Sebring
Fax

Amen to that john.  of course the "green" lobby will be ensuring that more and more CO2 tax is apportioned to aircraft flights.

One of our political parties have today released details of increasing the car/road tax to £2000 per year for high CO2 vehicles like the Porsche Cayenne.

Though, i thought the idea about charging the CO2 flight tax per aircraft instead of per passenger had some merit.

Pee wee

[Fax]

Lorry,
Boeing's been churning out 737's since the late sixties. Hence the reason they're everywhere, with new versions to come.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_737
Fax

[Jason]

Aren't the 787 and the A380 just modern/bigger replacements for the 7thingy7 and 747.

The 787 is closer to the 737 in size as it is designed to operate to and from "smaller" airports.

I managed to see the A380 at lunchtime as it flew over the City, followed by a smaller chase plane. Looks like a massive Fokker, but is only 15feet wider

[Papa Lazarou]

I was just watching the coverage from Heathrows website, and they said the A380 creates only half the noise of a 747 and uses 12% less fuel...

Not bad if true.

Patrick.

[Robbo SPS]

Holly sh*t.

This is a motor racing forum with a bit of sex and drunken abuse.

Not a plane spotters convension.

Get back in your broom cupboards.

[Canada Phil]

Canada contributed Cold weather testing for this aircraft. well we do have lots to go around
Canada Phil

[Andy Zarse]

It's fu-cking MASSIVE! Not so much the length, or even the width. It's the hight of six double decker buses and it's an astounding spectacle.

[Ferrari Spider]

Mr Zarse where did you see it at LHR?

[Andy Zarse]

Erm... in the air Peter

[Ferrari Spider]

the way you related it i thought maybe you had been to LHR and seen the wee beastie, never mind, i'll go into the corner for a while

[Rob]

i missed it which is really annoying as i was involved with the construction of the new 4 gate pier they built specially for it

[Jem]

Sorry guys but I've gotta chip in as I have a remote involvement here.

My company designed the steel structure to the factory that makes the wings in North Wales, and believe me that is one big factory.

Jem

[championaudi]

sorry for my five pennies worth too...
my company designed and manufactures the fuel systems
it uses (not without a few problems!)
tis a big bugger, and we were relieved it when it got off the ground a while ago...........,
 and stayed there for a while!!!