Campsite Thieving - What to do about it?

[Bob U]

One of these to see of the pikeys is a must. I wonder if Carrefour can provide one


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbcnWRi0g8Y

[pedersenkorsager]

thats better 



Kenn

[pedersenkorsager]

www.cannon-mania.com/images/Pumpkin/p-cannon4.jpg

[nopanic - neil]

No pumpkins are for softies!!! - what are we, french?

What we need is one of these

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leYCwU7B8jI&NR=1&feature=fvwp

[mgmark]

.....MG Mark will call in an airstrike and with innocent fans caught up in the Beaten Zone, it'll be Boot Hill for the lot of us....

With the Cold War over for some years now, freedom to operate in the region in question has been curtailed, even beyond the always slightly tricky aspect of operating in French airspace.  Nevertheless, in the interest of offering best value for money for the taxpayer (there are enough of us out there every year...) and hand guns being such a relatively uncontrolled mechanism (whether in professional hands or not), and artillery largely having the difficulty of not being able to change the outcome once the shell has left the barrel, air-launched precision guided munitions probably offer the best option.  Sadly, present government Defence cuts balancing of the books are directing spare capacity towards the main effort, which is some many miles away from continental Europe but, if available, would you prefer an aircraft equipped with Paveway http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjkAhpgMo_k or JDAM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eFqdmV5aqk on standby to call up in support?

MG Mark

[Andy Zarse]

Mark, just wondering, have the RAF got any JP233 left? Could it be converted to a campsite denial system?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAGmDqH4c-8

[landman]

I personally think that fixed wing aeroplanes are not the best.

A pair of Apache AH64-D's would cover us most adequately.

Not only would they provide top cover, but they could could/would "blow them away" in the dawndraught.

Paul

[mgmark]

Perimeter protection is always a good thing and the Claymore is indeed highly capable - just need to run it in controlled mode to comply with the Mine Ban Treaty - and although JP233 could be used in that role (albeit a tad indiscriminate) it doesn't comply in any mode, so is no more.  Apache is indeed a useful adjunct, should perimeter protection either fail or not be available. 

But a good old fast jet show of force http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HEgdRkuF-U is often all that is required to get the heads of the miscreants down before resorting to the heavier stuff.  Mind you the intermediate step of a good strafing run is a sight and sound to behold http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5y8tUdwKyWk&feature=related, at least not from the wrong end of it.........but, of course, if a land-based system is required, then C-RAM has to be it.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmjZBaQLsCw

MG Mark

[nickliv]

Have anvils, will travel.

Pretty indiscriminate though.

[Snoring Rhino]

Ah, the good old JP233, I used to machine the parts for them at ML Aviation in Slough, a totally nasy bit of kit, not supprised its not complient, something to do with the mines it would laydown to blast the buggery out of the run way repair teams I think. No too risky when staggering back from a DFH party. 

[Lorry]

Ah, the good old JP233, I used to machine the parts for them at ML Aviation in Slough, a totally nasy bit of kit, not supprised its not complient, something to do with the mines it would laydown to blast the buggery out of the run way repair teams I think. No too risky when staggering back from a DFH party.  

Yes the RAF should have quite a lot spare, as its illegal under the land mines treaty.  A suicidal device if ever there was one.  You have to fly over well defended airfields to drop them, and even at night, all those little bomblets light up the sky.  There ought to have been a stand-off version.

This leaves me with the Claymore.  I was wondering if I could make money by selling some dummies - from a basic mould for polyfilla, with "Enemy this side" marked on it, and some Humbrol matt green.

And whilst CRAM is effective, I think we're looking at a lot of colateral damage here

[mgmark]

Ah, the good old JP233, I used to machine the parts for them at ML Aviation in Slough, a totally nasy bit of kit, not supprised its not complient, something to do with the mines it would laydown to blast the buggery out of the run way repair teams I think. No too risky when staggering back from a DFH party.  

And whilst CRAM is effective, I think we're looking at a lot of colateral damage here

Indeed, JP233 was neither nice for the receiving end, nor was it for delivery.  As for C-RAM, collateral damage maybe, but what a sound.......   For stand off capability, then either Storm Shadow or Brimstone must be the way to go in that respect...

MG Mark

[Pilgrim]

This leaves me with the Claymore.  I was wondering if I could make money by selling some dummies - from a basic mould for polyfilla, with "Enemy this side" marked on it, and some Humbrol matt green.

In the interest of mot making the campsites more messy than they need to be, might I suggest the M460 Stingmore? Non-lethal and it's used on the outside of embassies for riot control:

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/406003/jackass2_riot_control_test/

[Lord Steve]

Anyone from Jackass who gets shot is ok by moi!