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Not enough fuel in Istanbul
« on: April 10, 2006, 09:06:00 am »
Almost spilled my coffee while laughing when reading that yesterday's Le Mans Series 1000 km race in Istanbul had to be shortened to 4 hours because there wasn't enough fuel available at the racetrack :o :o :o
First I thought it to be a late april fool, but apparantly exactly this happened.

Not enough fuel at an automobile race, what a masterpiece of organisation ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Not enough fuel in Istanbul
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2006, 09:13:51 am »
This is a disgrace... the teams put in that much effort to put on a spectacular show and then the organisers manage to spoil it all, unbelievable. Yet again they also managed sucessfully to keep spectators off.   >:(
I very much hope that this is it for Istanbul. They don't deserve a LMS race.
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Re: Not enough fuel in Istanbul
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2006, 10:45:09 am »
I'm still struggling to see the sense in having an LMES race in Istanbul.

I know Turkey is supposed to be in the EU and this is a European series, but the majority of fans live in 'western' Europe / Scandinavia.

There MUST be an alternative venue for next year?
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Re: Not enough fuel in Istanbul
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2006, 11:28:40 am »
From the highlights on Motors TV it looked a cracking race.

Did I hear that they only told the teams the race was going to be shortened after the race started?
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Re: Not enough fuel in Istanbul
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2006, 12:02:53 pm »
There MUST be an alternative venue for next year?
Don't push your luck, they haven't even got an alternative for Monza yet :-\
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Re: Not enough fuel in Istanbul
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2006, 12:18:02 pm »
If all else fails there's Zandvoort.

Anyway, I didn't realise that the circuit provided the fuel.  I thought this was abandoned in 1988?  when Le Mans bought some cheap stuff from Carrefour, and everything was melting pistons.

If they have a central supplier (like Shell) then they should know how much is needed.  Perhaps it got nicked.

And the remains of the fuel tank system (a series of manholes etc) are by the pit wall opposite the far right hand pit.  Strangely it wasn't dug out when the pits were rebuilt.  Just be careful where you drop your dog ends [/anorak off]
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Re: Not enough fuel in Istanbul
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2006, 12:55:23 pm »
Le Mans has got a complete refulling system underneath their pitboxes, I was told at the RfH-factory. Apparently the ACO charge the teams about €7,- a litre :-\
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Re: Not enough fuel in Istanbul
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2006, 01:00:32 pm »
That 's around 25.000 Euros just for fuel.  :o
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Re: Not enough fuel in Istanbul
« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2006, 01:17:25 pm »
This is odd.  You'd put a lot of effort into setting up the engine management for a particular fuel, and then not trust anything else.  They must have a central supplier of race fuel, but god knows what rubbish there must be in the pipes, and E7 a litre is expensive
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Re: Not enough fuel in Istanbul
« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2006, 03:51:55 pm »
Did I hear that they only told the teams the race was going to be shortened after the race started?

Yes, this was announced app. 90 mins after the start...
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Re: Not enough fuel in Istanbul
« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2006, 05:11:55 pm »
This is odd.  You'd put a lot of effort into setting up the engine management for a particular fuel, and then not trust anything else.  They must have a central supplier of race fuel, but god knows what rubbish there must be in the pipes, and E7 a litre is expensive

The ACO issue a spec sheet for the fuel used.

http://www.lemans.org/sport/sport/reglements/pages/24hauto_gb.html
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Re: Not enough fuel in Istanbul
« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2006, 05:48:06 pm »

Not enough fuel at an automobile race, what a masterpiece of organisation ;D ;D ;D



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Re: Not enough fuel in Istanbul
« Reply #12 on: April 10, 2006, 06:13:12 pm »
There's usually a central supplier or a fuel sponsor which I'm imagine is the case here. 

What a cock up though!!

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Re: Not enough fuel in Istanbul
« Reply #13 on: April 10, 2006, 09:14:56 pm »

If they have a central supplier (like Shell) then they should know how much is needed.  Perhaps it got nicked.


Easy to tell - just look out for the fast-as-f**k mini-cabs on the streets of downtown Istanbul!


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Re: Not enough fuel in Istanbul
« Reply #14 on: April 10, 2006, 11:04:58 pm »

Easy to tell - just look out for the fast-as-f**k mini-cabs on the streets of downtown Istanbul!

I dont't think they go all the way either
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