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Whoever thought these up.. wakefield wildcats  warrington wolves  and the catalan dragons  |
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« Reply #16 on: August 10, 2006, 01:11:36 pm » |
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I went to Twickenham 4/5 years ago to see the Union vs League game. The first half was played with League rules and the second with Union. The Union side was slaughtered in the first half and I expected a complete reversal in the second. Not a chance the league guys won, not by such a big margin, but they showed the Union guys a thing or two.
The crowd I went with, all from Beaconsfield Rugby Club, were all die hard Union fans and didn't think much of "Those Northern poofs coming down here to show us their watered down poncy rugby"
There was a lot of huffing and puffing going on during the second half as the League guys were banging in the tries, and even they had to concede that league was a whole lot better than they expected.
I was brought up on Union and have never been to a league game so I am a bit bias. I must try it next time we are oop t north visiting the sister in law. You never know , I might enjoy it.
I must have a google and find out why there are two codes when it started out as one.
I got it
The schism between union and league
For more details see History of rugby league
It is believed that Yorkshire inaugurated amateurism rules in 1879, their representitives along with Lancashire's, are creditied with formalising the RFU's first amateur rules in 1886. Despite popular belief, these Northern bodies were strong advocates of amateurism, leading numerous crusades against veiled professionalism. However, conflict arose over the controversy regarding broken time, the issue of whether players should receive compensation for injuries received whilst playing. The northern clubs were heavily populated by a working class, and thus, a large pool of players would either not turn out for their clubs due to working commitments, or forgo pay to play rugby. In 1892, allegations of player payments were directed at the Bradford and Leeds clubs, though this was not the first allegation towards these northern bodies, that is not to say southern bodies had not been involved in similar circumstances. The RFU became concerned that these broken time payments were a pathway to professionalism.
On August 29, 1895 at a meeting at the George Hotel, Huddersfield, twenty clubs from Yorkshire, Lancashire and Cheshire decided to resign from the RFU and form the Northern Rugby Football Union which from 1922 would be known as the Rugby Football League. In 1908, eight clubs in Sydney break away from union and form the New South Wales Rugby League. The dispute about payment was one which at the time was also affecting soccer and cricket. Each game had to work out a compromise; Rugby was the least successful at doing this. It would be a century before union legalised payments to players and would allow players who had played a game of league (even at an amateur level) to play in a union game.
Sorry Dave, Thread well and truly highjacked.
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There is a corner of a foreign field that will be forever England ------ Houx Annexe
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« Reply #17 on: August 10, 2006, 01:49:46 pm » |
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Bob
briefly it started in Huddersfeild (and I know that a giant has never been near Huddersfield), when a group of northern based Rugby union clubs wanted to pay there players, and the old farts at Twickenham exiled them from the RFU. there was a lot more to it, but that is the brief explanation. A fact that is not wideley known however, is that there are more Rugby Union clubs ni Yorkshire than there are in any other county. In my home town of Leeds there are 15 union clubs, with many more in the surrounding towns.
The next time you are up north PM me and I will arrange a visit to a league game.
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« Reply #18 on: August 10, 2006, 01:51:03 pm » |
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« Reply #19 on: August 10, 2006, 03:16:29 pm » |
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The next time you are up north PM me and I will arrange a visit to a league game.
Sounds good to me Neal. The sister in law lives in Lepton near Huddersfield, we have to visit some time before Crimbo so I will let you know when and maybe we could take in a game. |
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« Reply #20 on: August 10, 2006, 03:38:27 pm » |
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What you have to remember is that this summer rugby. the regular season finishes at approx the end of sept, with the play offs happening in October
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« Reply #21 on: August 10, 2006, 07:58:47 pm » |
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 Hi VQ I would be up for that - PM me some more info as I am just going out to watch the Red Sxxte get what for hopefully. I am an Everton Fan. I think its a great idea and my son will probably enter as well. Must dash Thanks Lisa xx Does that make you a toffee bean?  Andy  Errrmmmm - NO  Not a 'Bean' anyway - don't mind being called a 'Toffee' as I did acheive my dream of being a 'Toffee Lady' at Goodison when I was young and gorgeous. Anyway - I can't stay chatting as I have 75kk to spend on men for my FF team - The lovely lovely Duncan Ferguson is apparently not available for purchase which is a big shame. Thanks for the link VQ I will proceed as instructed. Byee Lisa |
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« Reply #22 on: August 11, 2006, 08:21:10 am » |
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Hi VQ I would be up for that - PM me some more info as I am just going out to watch the Red Sxxte get what for hopefully. I am an Everton Fan. I think its a great idea and my son will probably enter as well. Must dash Thanks Lisa xx Does that make you a toffee bean? Andy Errrmmmm - NO Not a 'Bean' anyway - don't mind being called a 'Toffee' as I did acheive my dream of being a 'Toffee Lady' at Goodison when I was young and gorgeous. Anyway - I can't stay chatting as I have 75kk to spend on men for my FF team - The lovely lovely Duncan Ferguson is apparently not available for purchase which is a big shame. Thanks for the link VQ I will proceed as instructed. Byee Lisa That amount of money.....all you have to do is spend it...........all on men in shorts........i can't see why my wife finds this so dull? I look forward to seeing your team Lisa May the games begin |
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« Reply #23 on: August 11, 2006, 09:03:44 am » |
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Fagey As a lad from Jersey you obviously have never seen any of the Ladies from thos places I take it that the team names are apt then for the local totty Jersey would be the Jersey stunners |
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« Reply #24 on: August 11, 2006, 09:45:54 am » |
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« Reply #25 on: August 11, 2006, 10:17:27 am » |
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« Reply #26 on: August 11, 2006, 12:49:29 pm » |
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« Reply #27 on: August 11, 2006, 01:57:01 pm » |
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methinks fillies What a charmer! I am up at the Rugby club tomorrow with some girlfriends – forcing myself to watch men playing with odd shaped balls - just for the heck of it. Should I look out for the Galant? |
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« Reply #28 on: August 14, 2006, 08:59:46 am » |
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methinks fillies What a charmer! I am up at the Rugby club tomorrow with some girlfriends – forcing myself to watch men playing with odd shaped balls - just for the heck of it. Should I look out for the Galant? Well, I hope you enjoyed the game.. I wasnt there as I had my kiddies for the weekend  but the season is starting soon so the old gallant will be there soon.... Veterans rugby dont ya know.. old age and treachary (!?!) will overcome youth and skill Andy |
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