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[Bas]

That, plus grandstands in Maison Blance, just after the porsche curves. Although taking up camping space, it should be a good viewing spot for the race though!

What grandstands on Maison Blanche 

[knetter]

That is part of the rebuild, not on the website yet!

[Bas]

Then where did you get that info from??

[Paddy_NL]

the ticket office

[Bas]

the ticket office

I am sorry but all the ACO says that it's building "4 stands" on Maison Blanche and afaik stands are pitboxes and not grandstands or "tribune" as they would call them.

[Paddy_NL]

According to JPC who spoke to a lady at tickets-2-u there will be grandstands. She could be wrong as well of course...

[clkgtrlm1]

May I say that most of this is speculation. Lets see what happens.

At the end of the day - even if MB and KN are compromised - is it going to have that much effect?

[Paddy_NL]

400 camping tickets less on MB alone surely will have an effect

[Dirk3D_NL]

yes

[Bas]

400 camping tickets less on MB alone surely will have an effect

Now I was wondering about that Paddy, 400 camping tickets is just some 30.000 euro in money to the ACO and only 15.000 sqm that they can easily find elsewhere.
So small potatoes to them, they don't know or appreciate what MB means to us and remember the vast majority of the visitors to the 24h are French (81%) and donot really bother with camping.

That might explain why they didn't bother to inform us/most people about this.

[Paddy_NL]

and remember the vast majority of the visitors to the 24h are French (81%) and donot really bother with camping.

Are you sure it's as much as 81 percent? To me it seems more like 50% French to 50% foreigners...

or do all the baguettes hide in the forrest on the Mulsanne straight?

[Bas]

Hey it's on the official ACO site, so I guess there must be some truth to it.

http://www.lemans.org/24heuresdumans/pages/faq_fr.html

However if they would measure the amount of money spend during the Le Mans week than the outcome could be very very different 

[Lord Pig-Pen]

May I say that most of this is speculation. Lets see what happens.

At the end of the day - even if MB and KN are compromised - is it going to have that much effect?

I may be "Refreshed" but have to agree with the above.... over the last 20 years I have camped on most of the sites at LM and visited my Dad and his aged mates on all the others many times in the last 8 years. (Thank f**k BSJ has not been mentioned!)
LM changes every year and we have to adapt to it. I fully appreciate the DFH issues as the supercamp that we have all enjoyed (oh we have!) and all their planning being fcuked up, but it really is beyond our control.

Why dont we all just wait and see where we get allocated and then make decisions or this bickering will be never ending.

Did anyone drive down through Northern France (not towards LM but west) in the mid 90's? remember when they were spending Billions of Francs on the roads, not for our benefit, but for theirs..... drive through a building site one week, drive back through landscaped bankings that looked like they had been there for years a week later.

I hope, and I may be wrong... but they are doing all this for themselves again (obviously)... so wont sh*t on their own door step by leaving MB or KN as a building site as some have suggested. When is the first outing for the new track sections? They wont want mud and shite on display after spending all that money to meet the regs and having all the bigwigs there to see it look like a tramps underpants.

Anyway.. enough from me. We will all be there, if last years weather didnt spoil things, then a change of scenery shoudnt either!
New spot.. new victims for the Chilli Challenge!

PP of The Brethren

[Christopher]

May I say that most of this is speculation. Lets see what happens.

At the end of the day - even if MB and KN are compromised - is it going to have that much effect?

I may be "Refreshed" but have to agree with the above.... over the last 20 years I have camped on most of the sites at LM and visited my Dad and his aged mates on all the others many times in the last 8 years. (Thank f**k BSJ has not been mentioned!)
LM changes every year and we have to adapt to it. I fully appreciate the DFH issues as the supercamp that we have all enjoyed (oh we have!) and all their planning being fcuked up, but it really is beyond our control.

Why dont we all just wait and see where we get allocated and then make decisions or this bickering will be never ending.

Did anyone drive down through Northern France (not towards LM but west) in the mid 90's? remember when they were spending Billions of Francs on the roads, not for our benefit, but for theirs..... drive through a building site one week, drive back through landscaped bankings that looked like they had been there for years a week later.

I hope, and I may be wrong... but they are doing all this for themselves again (obviously)... so wont sh*t on their own door step by leaving MB or KN as a building site as some have suggested. When is the first outing for the new track sections? They wont want mud and shite on display after spending all that money to meet the regs and having all the bigwigs there to see it look like a tramps underpants.

Anyway.. enough from me. We will all be there, if last years weather didnt spoil things, then a change of scenery shoudnt either!
New spot.. new victims for the Chilli Challenge!

PP of The Brethren

Generally agree with what you said. and I hope you are right......but the ACO do seem to have an aversion to grass seed.......I use the inside banking of Tetre Rouge corner from last year as an example.......I think it was only the weeds stopping the bank from sliding away.

[fagey]

I will report back what its like in may.. with piccies.. as I will be there for the oh so naughty motoGP boys

cheering on our brit jamie 'the masher' toseland