Help for Heroes

[Leftie]

I bought a 'band' before Christmas.

This is a charity dedicated to the rehabilitaion of the injured from the British Armed Services, Lets face it, this government has done Sweet FA about our injured.

The BEST Military hospital was Haslar at Gosport. This has now closed, it also used the cater for local needs over a 25 mile radius in times of Peace. All we have now is a crap hospital near Birmingham.

If you see a tri-colour band of Blue/Light Blue/Red. Please buy one to support the cause for rehabilitation of these Heroes. This government doesn't.

Did you hear on the news that two 'squadies' from the Paras (ages-21 &22) were asked for ID in a weatherspoons' pub in Southsea and asked for ID. They showed theier MOD ID and it wasn't acceptable! As it was not on their list of acceptable ID's even though it had their Date of Births' on it. I WILL NEVER GO INTO THEIR CHAIN AGAIN.

There are a lot of personal concerns that our Armed Services are subjected to. Many of which we, as the employers' of this government do not agree with. Something needs to be done.

As they are puting their lives' at risk for causes unknown, we should support them.

SUPPORT 'HELP THE HEROES'

Leftie

[jpchenet]

Fully support the charity and I've been wearing one of the wristbands for about 4 months now. Shame they aren't more readily available in shops. I got mine from a graden centre of all places! At work we've just donated an iPod Touch to a Help for Heroes auction and someone bid £800 for it! 

Have to disagree with you slightly though Leftie about the Wetherspoons pub. As a licensee, I inform my staff the only ID they can take as proof of age is Passport or Driving Licence, simly because they are identifyable by everyone. This is the norm across 99.9$% of bars across the UK. All the Squaddies I know are aware of this and carry a Passport or Driving License when out on the town.

Fake ID card crime is rife and they are easily obtainable. I have all sorts of wierd ID cards presented to me at the bars I do, most of which I have no idea who issues them or what they are supposed to look like, so cannot guarantee they are real so do not accept them as proof. Student Union Cards, Work ID Cards, Gym Membership Cards, Video Shop Cards, the lot! I have nbo idea what a REAL MoD ID card looks like compared to a made up one (and I work with the Military on a day to day basis) so I'm afraid I wouldn't accept it either.

[Lawnmower Man]

Have to agree with Leftie about the shoddy way we treat the Military when it mes to the Hospital situation. 

Also have to agree with JPC on the ID issue.   I recently had an encounter with MOD and was shown the persons ID but I have no idea if it was fake.  I relied more on the events leading up to the meeting to know the person was genuine.

Unfortunately rules are rules.  It is not within the power of the bar staff to use discretion.  I guess the Manager could use discretion. 

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[Doris]

Judging by the story below (which is from the facebook group 'Support Joe to Get His Bungalow') it's not just when it comes to hospitals that we fall down in honouring the job these people do.


This group is to support Royal Marine Joe Townsend with the ongoing process of him getting a special adapted bungalow out with his family in Pevensey.

After losing both legs to an anti-tank mine while serving with the 40 Commando based at Helmand Province in Afghanistan, Joe is trying to rebuild his life.

Joe is a strong and determined person who is proud to be in the Marines. He deserved to be a Marine and would always give 110% in anything he did. Despite losing both legs, Joe still remains upbeat and optimistic.

To help Joe become more independent and closer to his family, his grandad decided to build a specially adapted bungalow on his own land to help Joe.The plans for his bungalow, which would have had a treatment room, a bedroom for a carer and an en- suite bathroom, were drawn up for free by an architect who wanted to thank Joe for his sacrifice.

But the council disagreed. A spokesman for Wealden Council said: “The circumstances in this case are not considered sufficient to warrant an exception to the usual restraint policies.” She also said Joe’s bungalow would be "intrusive" and breach planning laws even though no neighbours objected.

With many people already supporting Joe, this group is to get more people on board with the idea and help Joe get the bungalow he deserves.


Dx

[Leftie]

Fully support the charity and I've been wearing one of the wristbands for about 4 months now. Shame they aren't more readily available in shops. I got mine from a graden centre of all places! At work we've just donated an iPod Touch to a Help for Heroes auction and someone bid £800 for it! 

Have to disagree with you slightly though Leftie about the Wetherspoons pub. As a licensee, I inform my staff the only ID they can take as proof of age is Passport or Driving Licence, simly because they are identifyable by everyone. This is the norm across 99.9$% of bars across the UK. All the Squaddies I know are aware of this and carry a Passport or Driving License when out on the town.

Fake ID card crime is rife and they are easily obtainable. I have all sorts of wierd ID cards presented to me at the bars I do, most of which I have no idea who issues them or what they are supposed to look like, so cannot guarantee they are real so do not accept them as proof. Student Union Cards, Work ID Cards, Gym Membership Cards, Video Shop Cards, the lot! I have nbo idea what a REAL MoD ID card looks like compared to a made up one (and I work with the Military on a day to day basis) so I'm afraid I wouldn't accept it either.

Mark,

I understand your point but this happened in a Military town/island and the ID's are known.

Do you know what a Police ID looks like and would you accept it?

[jpchenet]

Fully support the charity and I've been wearing one of the wristbands for about 4 months now. Shame they aren't more readily available in shops. I got mine from a graden centre of all places! At work we've just donated an iPod Touch to a Help for Heroes auction and someone bid £800 for it! 

Have to disagree with you slightly though Leftie about the Wetherspoons pub. As a licensee, I inform my staff the only ID they can take as proof of age is Passport or Driving Licence, simly because they are identifyable by everyone. This is the norm across 99.9$% of bars across the UK. All the Squaddies I know are aware of this and carry a Passport or Driving License when out on the town.

Fake ID card crime is rife and they are easily obtainable. I have all sorts of wierd ID cards presented to me at the bars I do, most of which I have no idea who issues them or what they are supposed to look like, so cannot guarantee they are real so do not accept them as proof. Student Union Cards, Work ID Cards, Gym Membership Cards, Video Shop Cards, the lot! I have nbo idea what a REAL MoD ID card looks like compared to a made up one (and I work with the Military on a day to day basis) so I'm afraid I wouldn't accept it either.

Mark,

I understand your point but this happened in a Military town/island and the ID's are known.

Do you know what a Police ID looks like and would you accept it?

Having never seen one, what is unique about them that can stop them being produced by anyone with a Plastic Card printer (i.e. driving licenses have a hologram)

If someone showed me some sort of Police Plastic ID card with a DoB on it as proof of age, no, I wouldn't accept it! (As far as I know, Police carry business cards which state they are not to be taken as proof of identity!)

[Leftie]

Having never seen one, what is unique about them that can stop them being produced by anyone with a Plastic Card printer (i.e. driving licenses have a hologram)

If someone showed me some sort of Police Plastic ID card with a DoB on it as proof of age, no, I wouldn't accept it! (As far as I know, Police carry business cards which state they are not to be taken as proof of identity!)

Admit a good point there, but all the Police I deal with through work in Hampshire, Surrey and London have valid cards and are recognisable.

When I crashed my car a few months ago, exchanged details etc and then left the scene, besides arriving in a marked car, they also showed thier ID's.