I love people who condemn things outright before they've even tried them.

Those who know me well would, I hope, take me on trust that this music is as far from karaoke as it's possible to get. And if Rusty says the Dover Street Wine Bar is a good venue, then I'm inclined to believe him, unless anyone here knows anything to the contrary?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but as I understood the situation, we kinda all agreed the 8th would be the offical CA Xmas piss up in the pub. The 15th was put forward as an alternative for those who couldn't make the 8th and as I happened to be going to Dover St that evening anyway, I offered this as an open invitation if anyone fancied joining in with me and my pals. It was not an invitation to carp or bitch at a genuine offer. So to those who are interested, then I look forward to seeing you on the 15th. For those who aren't interested, then fine, I hope you all have a good time doing whatever it is you decide to do.