Club Arnage
Club Arnage => General Discussion => Topic started by: fagey on July 20, 2007, 08:56:07 am
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Just heard this morning that, all things going to plan, the vulcan will make its first public appearance for years in 12 weeks... at the magnificent Jersey International Air Display.. only fitting as its last performance was also here 8)
Quote from local news site:
'AIR DISPLAY
The Jersey International Air Display in September could see the first visit of the Vulcan aeroplane in twelve years.
If test flights next month are successful, the plane will make its first ever appearance at an airshow since being rebuilt.
The design was phased out by the RAF in the 90s, as it was too expensive to operate.'
check out some of the beauties we had last year!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/jersey/content/image_galleries/ad06_main_aubins_gallery.shtml
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Very fond memories of the great tin triangle in operation, and what a grand moment it will be to see one back in the air, trusting with crossed fingers that the flight testing and certification go according to plan. It seems that all is set for ejection seat fitting this week, with the first engine runs apparently scheduled for next week. Four Olympuses turning and burning in glorious unison....aaahhh, the earth will truly shake. ;D
Speculation abounds about when the first test flight out of Bruntingthorpe will be, but the rumour mill seems to be saying now that in the next 3-4 weeks is possible, although there's an unnderstandable concern over publicising it, with the likely outcome of all roads around Bruntingthorpe becoming chock full of cars with people turning up to watch.
And what a long gestation period she has had, landing at Bruntingthorpe in 1993, with it taking until 2005 to get everything needed in place to actually start the restoration to flying condition. Hats off to all those involved in that long haul. For those interested, more detail and ongoing news on the site and forums here: http://www.tvoc.co.uk/ (http://www.tvoc.co.uk/)
If you do end up with XH558's first display being at Jersey, then you are a lucky, lucky chap!
MG Mark
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This is wonderful news!
The V Bomber is an aircraft very close to my heart, as this is the aircraft that my dad used to fly in.
It will be great to see and hear one flying again.
I think a trip to Jersey may be in order.
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In the meantime, whilst we're waiting for the chaps to put the Vulcan back in the air, I have to say this one brought a bit of a lump to the throat...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=LpH0gDSqrMs
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I will keep you all informed.. and you are all most welcome over ;D
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Hope I'm at home for the test flight.
My house is about 100 yards from Bruntingthorpe Aerodrome.
It will be like its taking off from my garden ;D
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We used to see and hear these monsters taking off from what was the AV Roe & Co site at Woodford Cheshire. Regular visits in those days to plane spot at Ringway (Manchester International) was often rewarded with a Vulcan doing a "circuits and bumps"
Scorched grass was always a sign that a Vulcan has been through. ;D
Cant wait to see the new reports and maybe have on flying over this neck of the woods.
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Always remember driving south on the A1 at Catterick about 20 years ago and I was stopped, along with all the traffic in both directions for about 10 mins without explanation from the police. Suddenly I heard, before I saw, a Vulcan coming in to land at just about car roof level over the motorway.
It was explained on the local evening news that the runway was a bit on the short side for the Vulcan and it needed to get its wheels down as soon as possible after the motorway!
Awesome
Any Lancaster enthusiasts out there?
Steve
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Any Lancaster enthusiasts out there?
Enthusiastic about pretty much anything with a prop, or a jet, from the Suttleworth's Blackburn monoplane to the latest wizardry that we are getting in service now. Matched only by being a petrolhead. but there has always been a special affinity for the Lancaster, with those 4 Merlins producing that certain sound......and an old family friend, who had flown them extensively in WW2 was one of the main inspirations for me joining up in the first place....
MG Mark
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My old man flew Libs during WW11 and I've got loads of old pictures including one when they had a mustang escort on return from a bombing run.
I have considered giving the log book etc to the RAF museum but somehow cant bring myself to part with the stuff.
One particular entry always makes me smile, thus
15/04/45 18.30 hours KL372..........Returned to base due to loss of fuel, owing to loose petrol cap on No 2 tank. Port fuel guages U/S
And if I run out of fuel I just walk to the garage?????????????
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In the meantime, whilst we're waiting for the chaps to put the Vulcan back in the air, I have to say this one brought a bit of a lump to the throat...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=LpH0gDSqrMs
that is glorious, simply glorious
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Any Lancaster enthusiasts out there?
Steve
Funny you should ask, but I was out at Northampton Raceway last weekend watching the F1 stockcars, I just happened to look behind me in time to see the City Of Lincoln flying over. Just enough time to get the camera out and get a few distant shots. This was last Sunday so it was probably on the way home from Fairford.
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Hope I'm at home for the test flight.
My house is about 100 yards from Bruntingthorpe Aerodrome.
It will be like its taking off from my garden ;D
Any local or inside knowledge would be welcome, I would give up a days holiday from work to go down to Bruntingthorpe to watch her fly again for the first time. Afterall i did go to her 30th birthday party at Woodford several years ago
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In the meantime, whilst we're waiting for the chaps to put the Vulcan back in the air, I have to say this one brought a bit of a lump to the throat...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=LpH0gDSqrMs
I thought it scandulous to drum out those beautifull Merlins with that music, but yes lump in throat time.
However, Spitfires and Hurricanes play only a minor role in the 'Battle of Malta' in 1940. The thre main 'heroes' were Sea Gladiators named Faith, Hope and Charity. These three aircraft held of the invadeing forces much on their own.
For those that can't remember, the Sea Gladiator was a Bi-Plane. And up against the modern Luftwaffe with ME109's etc, etc.
This thread started with the Vulcan. My old man used to work on then in what they used to call 'radiophonics'. He also worked on prior to that on Spits, Hurricanes, Mosquitos, Hunters, you name it.
Vulcan XM607 bombed Stanley airport, there is a superb book by Rowland White 'Vulcan 607' about the raid. I bought my Dad that last Christmas. About 20 yrs ago (a big 'about') I bought my Dad 'Corporate Prelude' by Philip West, limited edition print of XM607 on it's way to Stanley.
I just hope I can take my Dad to see the revitalised Vulcan in flight as he will undoubtably worked on it when it first entered service.
[/quote]Any local or inside knowledge would be welcome, I would give up a days holiday from work to go down to Bruntingthorpe to watch her fly again for the first time. Afterall i did go to her 30th birthday party at Woodford several years ago[/quote]
Chris,
What is her 'number'?
Jerry
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XH558 of course !
I have or at least had a small piece of I think XM607. I think that is the aircraft that was sat on the fire dump at RAF Macrahanish (Can't spell that RAF base). We had a cadet camp there and during an exercise, I went over to her and sat in the cockpit. The part I had was a twisted piece of metal where a shell had gone through her wing in the Falklands.
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Always remember driving south on the A1 at Catterick about 20 years ago and I was stopped, along with all the traffic in both directions for about 10 mins without explanation from the police. Suddenly I heard, before I saw, a Vulcan coming in to land at just about car roof level over the motorway.
It was explained on the local evening news that the runway was a bit on the short side for the Vulcan and it needed to get its wheels down as soon as possible after the motorway!
Awesome
Any Lancaster enthusiasts out there?
Steve
Hi Steve,
When you come over in August we can go and see the only Lancaster still flying in Canada. 24 - 26 August is ALMS at Mosport. You know you want to!
Phil
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XH558 of course !
I have or at least had a small piece of I think XM607. I think that is the aircraft that was sat on the fire dump at RAF Macrahanish (Can't spell that RAF base). We had a cadet camp there and during an exercise, I went over to her and sat in the cockpit. The part I had was a twisted piece of metal where a shell had gone through her wing in the Falklands.
607 is alive and well and can still be seen at RAF Waddington, as most will know, she was Black Buck 1 and features in the book 607 all about the RAF's involvement in the campaign to retake the Falkland's
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In a professional capacity, I've given an ATC service to the lanc a couple of times so far, when it's been going over to the dutch liberation celebrations. (At least I think that's where it was off to, certainly it was going into De Kooy for food)
I am pleased to say I did all I could to make sure that the old bus had a safe passage over the north sea.
Hope I get to do the same for the Vulcan in years to come.
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Any local or inside knowledge would be welcome, I would give up a days holiday from work to go down to Bruntingthorpe to watch her fly again for the first time. Afterall i did go to her 30th birthday party at Woodford several years ago
Chris if I get any advance notice I will let you know
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Just looked it up in my book and its XL427 that was on the fire dump at RAF Machrihanish when i was there as an air cadet.
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Any local or inside knowledge would be welcome, I would give up a days holiday from work to go down to Bruntingthorpe to watch her fly again for the first time. Afterall i did go to her 30th birthday party at Woodford several years ago
Chris if I get any advance notice I will let you know
A nod here would also be appreciated !!
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In a professional capacity, I've given an ATC service to the lanc a couple of times so far, when it's been going over to the dutch liberation celebrations. (At least I think that's where it was off to, certainly it was going into De Kooy for food)
I am pleased to say I did all I could to make sure that the old bus had a safe passage over the north sea.
Hope I get to do the same for the Vulcan in years to come.
Nick, you'll find that it is to commemorate Operation Manner, combined food drop by the RAF and USAAF during the closing stages of the war. A truce was enforced to allow the allies to drop food to the starving Dutch people.
Bit like the annual Arnhem commemoration for the airborne guys. If you haven't been, try and do so.
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Always remember driving south on the A1 at Catterick about 20 years ago and I was stopped, along with all the traffic in both directions for about 10 mins without explanation from the police. Suddenly I heard, before I saw, a Vulcan coming in to land at just about car roof level over the motorway.
It was explained on the local evening news that the runway was a bit on the short side for the Vulcan and it needed to get its wheels down as soon as possible after the motorway!
Awesome
Any Lancaster enthusiasts out there?
Steve
Hi Steve,
When you come over in August we can go and see the only Lancaster still flying in Canada. 24 - 26 August is ALMS at Mosport. You know you want to!
Phil
Phil
I assume you're talking about this bad boy. Was over there last September. My wife has relatives in Milton so a visit to the museum at Hamilton was a must. During the week after the photo was taken we got to watch it fly at about bedroom level (well it looked like that anyway) from our hotel in downtown Toronto.
Johne
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I was at Sywell Aerodrome last night to see the "Music in Flight" concert, which is Aerobatic teams doing their thing in time with Classical music.
Pretty impressive although the weather (and the low cloud base) restricted a lot of it.
There was also supposed to be a flypast by the Battle of Britain Squadron but they had to turn back due to adverse weather conditions. There was also supposed to be a flypast by a Swordfish or two which didn't happen. We did however have the delight of a Sea Fury buzzing us at low level for about ten minutes and this morning as we were leaving our B&B in Northamptonshire, the Lancaster flew directly over us at about 1000 feet closely followed by the Spitfire and the Hurricane, so we had our own personal flypast.
I'm happy ;D
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Hi John Boy,
Yes it lives at the Warplane Heritage museum.
I have seen the Lancaster out twice already this summer. Were you in town for the September 1st long week end? That is when the CNE air show is held and it is usually at that.
Milton is only 1 1/2 hours from Mosport well maybe 2 if you stick to the speed limit ::)
Phil
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Phil,
We were in in Toronto at the end of September for a wedding, followed by Montreal, Ottowa, Algonquin and Niagra, all in two weeks. Your country's huge :o Not sure why the Lancaster was flying, but it was on a Saturday. If you haven't already, follow the thumbnail for plenty more pictures from the museum.
Johne
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In a professional capacity, I've given an ATC service to the lanc a couple of times so far, when it's been going over to the dutch liberation celebrations. (At least I think that's where it was off to, certainly it was going into De Kooy for food)
I am pleased to say I did all I could to make sure that the old bus had a safe passage over the north sea.
Hope I get to do the same for the Vulcan in years to come.
Nick, you'll find that it is to commemorate Operation Manner, combined food drop by the RAF and USAAF during the closing stages of the war. A truce was enforced to allow the allies to drop food to the starving Dutch people.
Cheers Pete. I'll admit I was guessing at the reason the lanc went over to the continent. It'll be good to know exactly why the old girl is off there when I speak to her (crew, obviously) next.
Bit like the annual Arnhem commemoration for the airborne guys. If you haven't been, try and do so.
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I am led to believe that this morning XH558 will fly again for the first time in fifteen years.
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its on the runway at the moment ;D
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Indeed - Sky News and BBC are there amongst others, so hopefully we should see some clips on ther internet news sites and on the tellly news. Fingers crossed for a successful air test.
MG Mark
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this also...
http://vbc01.verifiedalarms.co.uk/index.php?sect=2
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this also...
http://vbc01.verifiedalarms.co.uk/index.php?sect=2
Yep, but sadly the bloody internet gateway at work won't let us on to sites like that, because they involve moving pictures - a bit modern for us as it might subvert people or something ridiculous...frustrating!
MG Mark
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Up Up and Away, live on Sky News. Hurrah!
MG Mark
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get the volume up!!!!
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get the volume up!!!!
Oh to have been able to be at or near Bruntingthorpe today, to feel the ground shake and hear the might roar of 4 Olympuses (or is it Olympi) on song :(
MG Mark
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Awesume, just wish i had known and i would have booked the day off work. Going out for several drinks tonight to celebrate her return, back where she belongs, up in the sky.
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Awesume, just wish i had known and i would have booked the day off work. Going out for several drinks tonight to celebrate her return, back where she belongs, up in the sky.
Chris did not get advance notice so I was at work as well >:(
However my wife got wind of it this morning and took this photo from home.
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Some amateur video clips on YouTube.
Taxi tests - http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=LSboTXYrgJg (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=LSboTXYrgJg)
Today's flight - http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=skKIfQMzQJw (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=skKIfQMzQJw)
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Wonderful pictures Peter. Thanks.
A great day at last.
Bloomin' marvellous
:laugh:
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Great pictures Peter, Thanks.
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Great Photos Peter!
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Peter,
Excellent pictures and you lucky, lucky chap to have been there. Sadly, work kept me incarcerated in London, fuming over the internet gateway on our system, which won't allow video streams from news sites, youtube and the like, so we had to make do with the continual updates that were pouring into pprune which was better than nothing, but caught it on the news later. With the best of weather to do her air test, she looked resplendent on the ground and glorious in the air.
As for scrap iron and decibel levels, a heck of a lot of redundant kit has been stripped out (radar, ecm, all the old weapons, nav kit, miles of wiring etc etc) - from talking to her engineers a couple of weeks ago, I know thay have had to do plenty of weighing and c of g calculations and revisions during the restoration. I'm not sure what fuel load she had on board, but I wouldn't imagine that it was a full load for a 30min trip and, with Bruntingthorpe's 10,000 foot runway and her relatively low wing loading, the crew wouldn't have needed to bend the throttle stops to get her in the air, so they were probably treating the old girl gently - indeed, she may even have surprised them with how sprightly she was off the stops!
MG Mark
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I'll post a few more if I can later on , another flight today, the crew were overjoyed after the flight BUT also totally knackered.
The engineers were working on 558 till 23:00 the night before preparing her for the flight. For something that was a 'secret' a lot of people knew about it, i've been keeping a day open for the last few months, just waiting for the phone call to say it was on.
Be lovely to see them when you get time. Could you PM me with any ideas on flight times for today? My old dad is not far away and I'd like to give him a ring to let him know if he can get across - he goes across to Cosford regularly for volunteer work, and I took him to the TVOC Hangar open Day a few weeks ago - it was great time together and for him as an ex-RAF fitter and De Havilland apprentice, looking at something that was going to fly again rather than a static exhibit really gave him a new spark.
MG Mark
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Tricky call I know and fully understoood - have a great day,
MG Mark
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Catchpole! you are a lucky lucky sod. I am green I tell you! Green!! :)
Nice shots though, I especially like the landing one.
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Great Pics Peter, shame this work thingy is preventing me from getting up there >:(
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A mate of mine just sent me this email. He works as a controller at RAF Waddington.
Nick
XH558 flew at Waddington today for it's CAA approval, let's just say that i was right underneath the display line, a position that money can't buy. The thing flew 100ft over the top, I could hear and feel the vortices! Mission complete, I can now leave the RAF! I'm expecting that you'll never speak to me again,
Gav
The bastard.
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Display authorisation has now been graned. 1st display at the RAF waddington airshow. THIS WEEKEND
PPS I can't go. Double bastard.
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I am going to Waddington tomorrow and I can't wait to see the Vulcan.
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Is it gone from Bruntingthorpe for good now? I live very close and have been working from home for the last few weeks with camera at the ready at all times. These are recent shots.
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Hopefully she'll remind us of the olympus roar at Fairford :o shame it's not white with a pointy nose ;D
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Had the pleasure of seeing a DC3 on the apron at Bournemouth / Hurn this morning, it's apart of the final tour circuit by Air Atlantic - unfortunatly no bookings are availble, might try and pitch up for cancelations though.
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I will be seeing the Vulcan at Farnboro on Friday the 18th
Yeah me an my VIP tent! [But no job]
Landman
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As far as I know the mighty Vulc will still live at Brunty, just up to Waddington for the display.
I would think a life at a live RAF Station would not be viable for her anyway as her role in future will be basically commercial. She will be a Historic Training Aid of some sort and the TVOC are keeping her as theirs as they fully deserve to after all the blood sweat and tears they went through getting her alive and certificated
There is lots of information on the TVOC site for all to enjoy:
http://www.tvoc.co.uk/
Me, I wont be at Waddington this weekend but will see her somewhere this summer, then I will rejoice.
Justice done!
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As far as I know the mighty Vulc will still live at Brunty, just up to Waddington for the display.
Thanks for that, I'll look forward to the return.
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My dad used to fly in V Bombers, so they are close to my heart.
It's fantastic to see one flying again. Hopefully, I'll catch it in the summer.
Just superb!
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Just back from Waddington. No pictures as I only had my phone with me and they aren't very good.
Simply WOW! Lancaster and Vulcan flying together - at Waddington!
A huge thank you to the Vulcan team; I am now off to send them some money to keep her flying.
Added a youtube link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YMzN9T3VWQ&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YMzN9T3VWQ&feature=related)
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What a fantastic day, the Vulcan was amazing it blow me away. It also did a flypast with the Lancaster from the BBMF, that has to be the highlight of day.
However the low point of the day was having to sit in the car park for two and half hours trying to get out.
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Here are couple of photo's from yesteday:-
(http://www.rdj-pics.co.uk/Photos/2008/Waddington/slides/Waddo056.JPG)
(http://www.rdj-pics.co.uk/Photos/2008/Waddington/slides/Waddo057.JPG)
(http://www.rdj-pics.co.uk/Photos/2008/Waddington/slides/Waddo077.JPG)
(http://www.rdj-pics.co.uk/Photos/2008/Waddington/slides/Waddo090.JPG)
(http://www.rdj-pics.co.uk/Photos/2008/Waddington/slides/Waddo094.JPG)
(http://www.rdj-pics.co.uk/Photos/2008/Waddington/slides/Waddo095.JPG)
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Superb!
Really looking forward to Farnborough now.
Well done to all involved in getting the Vulcan flying again.
A major achievement in the face of almost impossible bureaucracy
Landman.
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I did find out yesterday that there is a bit of a link to Le Mans. One of the major backers of the Vulcan to the Sky Trust is none other than AD Holdings. You may or may not know that AD Holdings is owned by Mike Newton who drives the RML MG.
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Great Pics Rob, wish I had made it.
Is soo good to see the Girl back where she belongs, in the air
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I did find out yesterday that there is a bit of a link to Le Mans. One of the major backers of the Vulcan to the Sky Trust is none other than AD Holdings. You may or may not know that AD Holdings is owned by Mike Newton who drives the RML MG.
Can we donate a few quid each to get her to fly at LM next year?
A low level flyby over the start finish straight or even a display over the airfield would be fantastic.
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Count me in for a few quid there :)
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Just seen the F22 and the F16 being put through their paces for Farnborough. Absolutely fantastic! Also found out that if I move my desk to the window on the other side of the building I can watch the show next week while I should be working. Brilliant! ;D
Dx
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Vulcan went tech at waddington, (Alternator problem) after the display, but it shouldn't be too much of a problem to rectify it.
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Must have gone tech after its flight over Basingstoke around 1pm today
Landman
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I'm gutted to be missing the F22 but after getting to Waddington last week and Bon Jovi at Twickers the week before I thought it would be pushing it get to Fairford as well. She did after all put up with me going to Le Mans for a week!
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For me this plane is a true Icon of everything that is British, i remember seeing it at various air shows when i was a boy and being totally over awed by its presence, they way it looked they way it sounded, and of course the sterling effort during the falklands conflict. What a an aircraft this is. Its great to see it fly again.
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of course the sterling effort during the falklands conflict
The Vulcan 607 book is a fascinating read, I would recommend it if you haven't read it already
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If you haven't heard RIAT has been cancelled for Saturday & for Sunday as well now :'(
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of course the sterling effort during the falklands conflict
The Vulcan 607 book is a fascinating read, I would recommend it if you haven't read it already
As my Dad used to work on them, I bought him the book XM607, also a limited edition print of 'Corporate Preluded' by Philip West.
In the book, there is mention of Peter McGregor, he developed the refueling droge. His two sons are close family friends and sailing comrades.
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it flew over my house this afternoon - a magnificent sight.
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We have the red arrows etc for our Battle of Britain display which then goes on to Jersey. We are being asked for £12k for the Vulcan to do a flyover!
It will be in the vicinity anyway as it is doing the Jersey display.
>Martini...
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So you're saying jersey can afford it but you can't?? I thought there were lots of rich tax exiles there... ;)
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It will be in the vicinity anyway as it is doing the Jersey display.
>Martini...
How's that for bad timing? I'm in Jersey over the August bank holiday and the display is on 11th September.
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We should be careful about this re-appearance of such a great aircraft. Given current problems with aircraft stuck in hangers and no money in the armed forces, they will probably grant it operational wings and send it to Afganistan for our boys to fly.
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i was at Billing Aquadrome this weekend and the vulcan flew over - stunning plane :)
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So you're saying jersey can afford it but you can't?? I thought there were lots of rich tax exiles there... ;)
And the reason they are rich is because... they don't share it...
>Martini...LB
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We have the red arrows etc for our Battle of Britain display which then goes on to Jersey. We are being asked for £12k for the Vulcan to do a flyover!
It will be in the vicinity anyway as it is doing the Jersey display.
>Martini...
I thought you lived in Jersey Martin?? ;D
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Cheeky young whippersnapper...
There were a load of bikers going back to Jersey from France, all with scottish accents.
>Martini...LB
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WOW! The Vulcan flew right over my office this afternoon followed very quickly by the Red Arrows. Possibly the best afternoon I've ever had in this office. ;D
Dx
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Possibly the best afternoon I've ever had in this office. ;D
Dx
Hmmm.
Uncle Pervy
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Saw it at Farnboro this afternoon.
Amazing!
The first thing I knew about its imminant appearance was the noise from the north end of the runway
Going again Sunday, can't wait for 14:45
Landman
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Saw it at Farnboro this afternoon.
Amazing!
The first thing I knew about its imminant appearance was the noise from the north end of the runway
Going again Sunday, can't wait for 14:45
Landman
You might miss it then :-[ from the TVOC site
Expected 558 times are :-
(takeoff / display / land)
FRI 1435 1446 1455
SAT 1436 1445 1452
SUN 1230 1245 1251
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No probs
I'll be there early
Thx
Landman
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No probs
I'll be there early
Thx
Landman
That's ok then, would be very frustrating to be off looking at something else & hear the roar in the distance ;D I speak from experience :-[ ;D
Should be a good show & probably busy after RIAT being cancelled, when we heard RIAT was cancelled we changed our plans & went to Duxford instead & that was a sellout. so Farnborough could be packed
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It will be interesting to compare yesterday [Friday] with tomorrow [Sunday]
The whole place seemed half empty as Friday was a trade day.
We were in a chalet just by the "piano keys" so plenty of action as we at lunch
Landman
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Does she still do the low pass then off at 90 degrees straight up number or is she too old to get it on? Would love to see her do it again.
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Slightly more sedate I thought this time.
Not sure if the Pilots have been told to take it a bit careful, and if so were the instructions from the CAA or their own bosses.
Just hoping that they might get the go ahead for the more dramatic manoeuvres next season.
That said: it still looks absolutely awesome and the ground shakes beneath your very feet.
Landman
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I may well slip some cash to them when I find their stall tomorrow ;-)
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Slightly more sedate I thought this time.
Not sure if the Pilots have been told to take it a bit careful
We were told on the open day earlier this year they will have to take it easy on the engines, so they can get the most service life possible out of them.
Great to see the Vulcan yesterday :o a great crowd pleaser even if it was fairly sedate unlike the A380 WOW :o :o
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Can anyone tell me?
Did we ever sell any of our V Bombers to any other country or was it only the RAF that used them?
I seem to recall other countrys using Victors once they had been converted to air to air refuelers but not definatly sure
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Apparently not. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avro_Vulcan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avro_Vulcan)
Google is your friend.
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"the answer is no, the valiant, victor and vulcan were all for RAF use, though there would have been exchange crews from various friendly air arms flying them."
wasn't that the basic plotline from 'Thunderball'?
How is the arm old chap?
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Slightly more sedate I thought this time.
Not sure if the Pilots have been told to take it a bit careful, and if so were the instructions from the CAA or their own bosses.
Just hoping that they might get the go ahead for the more dramatic manoeuvres next season.
That said: it still looks absolutely awesome and the ground shakes beneath your very feet.
Landman
Paul, update as to the reasons behind the 'lacklustre' display, just been chatting to my chums on the project and it seems the crew are fatigue limited to what they can put the airframe through until work on the leading edges of the wings is completed.
hope this helps.
In which case I look forward to next year in the hope that the LEX's are renewed and that The Vulc renews her battle with additional high alpha manoeuvres.
Thx Peter
Landman/Paul
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On the subject of planes, I spent today at Sunderland Air Show out on my boat waiting to see such delights as a Spitfire, Lancaster, Hurricane, Eurofighter (to name but a few) and that great british institution, The Red Arrows. But alas like yesterday the mist put an end to that. Misty as f**k on the coastline for 2 days running and blazing sun 1/2 mile inland. Thats 2 years running its been spoilt by mist. Never saw a thing but heard a couple fly past and did'nt even get the sails up. What a sh*t day
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I'll miss the 7th but it's game on for Bournemouth as technically I own my own private car park [well, at least my employers do] so no problems with front row seats!
Landman
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taken this afternoon at Raf Brize Norton 10 mins of flybys, its not a 'display as the correct people and forms were not in place more a general try out of the kit, he he ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
oh wack up the volume :P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRm4i9Q2sog
Sweet...... ;D ;D ;D ;D
MG Mark
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On a similar nostalgic note, there we were at Silverstone during the Classic in July, quietly having a beer at the Scarf and Goggles early evening, when suddenly this "whoosh" and over went the 1950 Hawker Hunter. It did a 5 minute display and I was cursing that I had left all the cameras back at the caravan. Damn!
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On a similar nostalgic note, there we were at Silverstone during the Classic in July, quietly having a beer at the Scarf and Goggles early evening, when suddenly this "whoosh" and over went the 1950 Hawker Hunter. It did a 5 minute display and I was cursing that I had left all the cameras back at the caravan. Damn!
Was that the Black one? if so it did a great display over Mudeford RLNI day a few weeks ago.
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Another great video :D
I am glad it wasnt me standing amongst the approach lights though
scary
thanks
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On a similar nostalgic note, there we were at Silverstone during the Classic in July, quietly having a beer at the Scarf and Goggles early evening, when suddenly this "whoosh" and over went the 1950 Hawker Hunter. It did a 5 minute display and I was cursing that I had left all the cameras back at the caravan. Damn!
Was that the Black one? if so it did a great display over Mudeford RLNI day a few weeks ago.
Indeed it was - managed to snatch a few long shots of it - I'll try and post a couple once I get back to work next week.
MG Mark
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I have read that the Vulcan will appear at the Goodwood Revival this year.
Thats in addition to the the already great airshow put on at the meeting
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a cracked undercarriage jack mounting plate.
Please dont let BigH or a Zarse see that - you know what they are like! ::)
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Bugger. I was going to Shoreham at the weekend just to see her. :(
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Could be worse.
I think that in this 1st season they will be overly cautious.
Full credit to all involved in getting/keeping her in the sky.
Read Vulcan 607 whilst on holiday, cracking book, brought tears of pride to the eyes.
Landman.
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She was down to fly at Southport today but I called the Vulcan PR Officer to enquire about times and get confirmation and he told me that todays appearance has been cancelled, I am guessing due to heavy rain as its peeing down here.
But he did tell me that, again probably weather dependant, she is due to display at Southport Airshow on Sunday (tomorrow) at 2.20pm
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Bugger. I was going to Shoreham at the weekend just to see her. :(
Yet again... >:(
It's going to be at the Goodwood revival this year... :D
On the sunday.... :)
I'll be there on the saturday... :(
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Bugger. I was going to Shoreham at the weekend just to see her. :(
Yet again... >:(
It's going to be at the Goodwood revival this year... :D
On the sunday.... :)
I'll be there on the saturday... :(
"It's "
That should be "She is" Mr Zarse, for XH558 is a lady ! A rather large one at that mind you. ;D
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Bugger. I was going to Shoreham at the weekend just to see her. :(
Yet again... >:(
It's going to be at the Goodwood revival this year... :D
On the sunday.... :)
I'll be there on the saturday... :(
Awsome, Catchy I and are planning to be there on Sunday, ( Sorry really rules out saturday and the party jinks) Any other CA' ers there on Sunday?
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Finally got to see the mighty Delta Lady today, after a 14 year wait since the last time i saw her fly. Have to admit it brought a tear to my eye seeing her over head again after so long. Worth every penny of the £6 million rebuild.
Shame though that they aren't putting as much stress on the old girl and keeping to a basic and tame routine as it wasn't quite the same without the mighty roar and tight turns and steep climbs, but still real happy to see her again, up where she belongs. :)
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The Vulcan made two passes over Santa Pod this weekend.
They weren't 'displaying' just flying on somewhere.
Mighty impressive she was too.
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From http://www.tvoc.co.uk/default.asp (http://www.tvoc.co.uk/default.asp)
"to be realistic, it looks as if the door may now be closing on the future of the Vulcan in flight. I think that anyone wishing to see a Vulcan in flight should do so as soon as possible. "
Not very encouraging :(
I would go and see it soon if you can.
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And the icing on the cake at todays 1000 KM's at Silverstone , a fly over by XH558 at 2 pm during the race. I couldn't believe my luck. Waited 15 years to see her fly again and now seen her twice in 7 days.
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And the icing on the cake at todays 1000 KM's at Silverstone , a fly over by XH558 at 2 pm during the race. I couldn't believe my luck. Waited 15 years to see her fly again and now seen her twice in 7 days.
I must admit I was there but I missed XH558. However I was told yesterday that she will be back at Silverstone next weekend to do a flypast just before the start of the Britcar 24 Hours.
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Nice to see the old girl fly over yesterday afternoon, first time I have ever seen it in the flesh so to speak, it's a shame it passed over the back of the grandstands.
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Bugger!! Wish I'd known it was going to be there. It must have been while we were in the Pits with Spyker :-[
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And the icing on the cake at todays 1000 KM's at Silverstone , a fly over by XH558 at 2 pm during the race. I couldn't believe my luck. Waited 15 years to see her fly again and now seen her twice in 7 days.
I must admit I was there but I missed XH558. However I was told yesterday that she will be back at Silverstone next weekend to do a flypast just before the start of the Britcar 24 Hours.
Before moving on to the main motorsport event at the weekend, The Goodwood Revival. Hardly seems worth the fuel for the three men and their dog who go to the Britcar. ???
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Hardly seems worth the fuel for the three men and their dog who go to the Britcar. ???
Is that what the Top Gear team call themselves these days? ::)
Dx
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Bugger!! Wish I'd known it was going to be there. It must have been while we were in the Pits with Spyker :-[
She flew over at 2pm and as said, was behind the main grandstands at about 3000 - 4000 feet. Made me wonder if it was a recce run for next weekend.
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She did do a nice little bank to show off the delta though, great view from Club corner.
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(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh114/JulesGee/Vulcan1-2.jpg)
Banked to the left
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(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh114/JulesGee/Vulcan2.jpg)
and to the right
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From the website http://www.tvoc.co.uk/flightoperations.asp (http://www.tvoc.co.uk/flightoperations.asp)
"It is with great sadness that VTST have to announce that due to technical problems XH558 will not be appearing at Siverstone or Goodwood this weekend . Fuller details will be posted later today."
Ade
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Thats a huge shame was looking forward to seeing the old girl on Sunday.
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Thats a darn shame as i was hoping to get a glimse of her 3 weekends on the trot as i will be at Northampton on Sunday so there was a slight chance. These are from Southport airshow. Shame about the specks on the camera sensor though.
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Try that first pic again
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Yes - a fantastic effort and long may she fly.
I caught this on Midlands News this evening - Prototype VX770 crashed exactly 50 years ago today.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=KGOY1jZGNHU
Getting these birds in the air takes an incredible toll.
I know you guys like engines and most forms of engineering, including the avionic sort. This cut from 12 o'clock high is one of my favourites and listening to those engines crank up makes the hair on my neck stand.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=gi2NwU38NzA
Regards to all.
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This is a shame for all you folks who were hoping to see the V at Goodwood.
I've got my fingers crossed for the future of this magnificent aircraft. I fear it's going to be a constant battle against the ravages of time and the age old problem of finances.
I think it's Peter who has told us of the bill that has been run up this year, for hangerage etc.
It would be such a shame to see a vital piece of our Air Force history lost.
Fingers crossed.
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Anyone in the Farnborough area tomorrow... look up at 1200hrs
"Thursday marks 100 years since Samuel F Cody, an American-born 'Wild West' showman, became the first aviator in Great Britain to make a sustained flight in a powered flying machine of his own design. To mark this occasion there will be a flypast of aircraft over Farnborough from midday organised by the Farnborough Air Sciences Trust (FAST). The flypast will consist of:"
12:00 AAC Apache
12.04 1929 Gipsy Moth
12.07 1931 Tiger Moths and 1933 Rapide
12.10 1935 Avro Anson
12.13 1935 Hawker Hurricane
12.15 1948 Chipmunk
12.19 1952 Avro Vulcan
12.22 1974 BAe Hawk (RAF 208 Sqn)
12.25 1994 Eurofighter Typhoon (RAF 11 Sqn)
12.28 Boeing C-17 (RAF 99 Sqn)
12.31 Vulcan lands at Farnborough
Regards D.A.
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I suddenly have a business meeting in Farnboro it seems.
;D
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if you're looking for a good vantage point this could be the one for you, the aircraft should be overflying this pub, here's to sunny weather and you can stand outside.
http://swaninnfarnborough.co.uk/Contact
That looks remarkably close to the old Officers Mess which was used to be an excellent vantage point for the Air Show! Sadly, no scope for me to bunk off from work at High Wycombe tomorrow, otherwise I'd be down there like a shot!
MG Mark
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I may avail myself of the show home of my former employers.
This sits conveniently at the northern end of the runway. Planes are about 100ft AGL as they pass, usually in a nice nose-up flare ready for the piano keys a bit further down from the site.
Camera ready
It's not what, but who you know...
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if you're looking for a good vantage point this could be the one for you, the aircraft should be overflying this pub, here's to sunny weather and you can stand outside.
http://swaninnfarnborough.co.uk/Contact
That looks remarkably close to the old Officers Mess which was used to be an excellent vantage point for the Air Show! Sadly, no scope for me to bunk off from work at High Wycombe tomorrow, otherwise I'd be down there like a shot!
MG Mark
What on earth are you doing coming to this God foresaken place?
Knaphill?
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if you're looking for a good vantage point this could be the one for you, the aircraft should be overflying this pub, here's to sunny weather and you can stand outside.
http://swaninnfarnborough.co.uk/Contact
That looks remarkably close to the old Officers Mess which was used to be an excellent vantage point for the Air Show! Sadly, no scope for me to bunk off from work at High Wycombe tomorrow, otherwise I'd be down there like a shot!
MG Mark
What on earth are you doing coming to this God foresaken place?
Knaphill?
Walters Ash??
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She flies! :D
Well, at least the black dot and smoke trails on the horizon indicated that she did indeed make it to Farnborough. According to the Rushmore council webiste she'll be at F'borough until Saturday. Sorry but no indication of departure time.
Dx
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Bugger Bugger Bugger..........
I was down at Aldershot this morning to buy another car and left there just before midday.
I wish I read this thread last night.... what a twit...
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if you're looking for a good vantage point this could be the one for you, the aircraft should be overflying this pub, here's to sunny weather and you can stand outside.
http://swaninnfarnborough.co.uk/Contact
That looks remarkably close to the old Officers Mess which was used to be an excellent vantage point for the Air Show! Sadly, no scope for me to bunk off from work at High Wycombe tomorrow, otherwise I'd be down there like a shot!
MG Mark
What on earth are you doing coming to this God foresaken place?
Knaphill?
Walters Ash??
Walters Ash, Naphill, High Wycombe, beech trees, a Spitfire and Hurricane on poles, the Bomber Command crest on the gates and buildings in the background...sort of comes with the turf in my line of work at some point....
MG Mark
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Just came across this thread. I was as gutted as anyone that the Vulcan didn't appear at Goodwood but here are a few snaps I took:-
(http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u216/lynxd67/Goodwood%20Revival%202008/DSC_0415.jpg)
(http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u216/lynxd67/Goodwood%20Revival%202008/DSC_0628.jpg)
(http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u216/lynxd67/Goodwood%20Revival%202008/DSC_0639.jpg)
(http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u216/lynxd67/Goodwood%20Revival%202008/DSC_0642.jpg)
(http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u216/lynxd67/Goodwood%20Revival%202008/DSC_0644.jpg)
(http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u216/lynxd67/Goodwood%20Revival%202008/DSC_0648.jpg)
Oh, and there were a few cars there too ::)
(http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u216/lynxd67/Goodwood%20Revival%202008/DSC_0660.jpg)
(http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u216/lynxd67/Goodwood%20Revival%202008/DSC_0666.jpg)
(http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u216/lynxd67/Goodwood%20Revival%202008/DSC_0684.jpg)
I'll not post more of cars since this is the wrong thread for it.
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Liking them there airyplane pics, well done sir!
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Can someone start a thread for pics of the Revival, cars, planes etc... we had a fab day but took very few pics.... please!! ;D
Brad Zarse took heaps so.... come on... send me that disk and get posting!!
PP
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Can someone start a thread for pics of the Revival, cars, planes etc... we had a fab day but took very few pics.... please!! ;D
Brad Zarse took heaps so.... come on... send me that disk and get posting!!
PP
I have a great pic of Paul 'gay' Zarse. Can anyone help with resizing? ???
Dx
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Can someone start a thread for pics of the Revival, cars, planes etc... we had a fab day but took very few pics.... please!! ;D
Brad Zarse took heaps so.... come on... send me that disk and get posting!!
PP
I have a great pic of Paul 'gay' Zarse. Can anyone help with resizing? ???
Dx
Yes.. after my recent operation I know all about reduction. Send it to my hotmail and I will do the honours!
PP
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A49097307
Just came across this interesting, if sad, story.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A49097307
Just came across this interesting, if sad, story.
really interesting read but sad also :(
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Yeah, it was a real tragedy.
Don't know if anyone other than the pilots ever got out of a vulcan.
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Some did, but they couldn't in a hurry - part of the problem when the role was shifted from long range hogh altitude to low level tasks.
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Yeah, it was a real tragedy.
Don't know if anyone other than the pilots ever got out of a vulcan.
My dad used to fly as a bomb aimer in the Vulcan during his National Service.
Makes me think what might have been.........
Fortunately, every take off had a safe sanding.
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As a design engineer myself, I have huge admiration for the folks that designed and developed the V bombers, they were great aircraft that more than proved their worth by satisfying roles that were way outside of their original design brief and operating far beyond their designed service life. I have a very large soft spot for the Vulcan in particular, a stunning aircraft.
I've also had plenty of experience of the 'bean counters' forcing cutbacks and compromises on designs, sometimes to the point where safety was reduced from what was technically achievable! - That's when I worked in the industrial safety equipment industry! Martin-Baker proved that it was technically achievable to safeguard all crew members.
I doubt that the people responsible for designing these aircraft would have had such a cavalier attitude towards the welfare of the crew, but I have little doubt that the powers that be considered them 'expendable', in much the same way as more recent military personnel have been endangered by poor quality or complete lack of suitable equipment.
It is a sad fact, our political masters then and now, put many other factors ahead of the well-being of military personnel.
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I never rea;ised so many of the Vulcans had crashed!
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Big own goal scored at the weekend >:( . the Vulcan flew in Waddington for the airshow & was then duly grounded :o
Someone ??? didn't complete some structural inspection work on another airframe in time for the renewal of the permit to fly ??? this requirement was known about at least a year ago.
Don't know how they'll get corporate sponsorship with all the no-shows of last year & again this year :'(
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It seems (according to rumours only on PH) that they knew all along they were not certificated but were "pressed" to arrive at Waddy so that the Waddington display could "have" the Vulcan there as promised.
The PH aircraft section is throbbing with angry punters who have been stuck in lousy traffic jams both into and out of the station, only to learn that the Vulcan wouldnt display
I am sad to think that I may never get to see a Vulcan fly again
TVOC seem to have screwed up the whole operation
We will see
I'll be off to TVOC next to see what they have to say about the debaclé
Ah yes here it is
04 July 2009 - VTTS
The Vulcan to the Sky Trust (VTST) and Marshall Aerospace are deeply disappointed and saddened to have to announce that the planned displays of the Vulcan at the RAF Waddington International Airshow on 4th and 5th July have had to be cancelled.
As part of the 2005-7 Major servicing, a number of structural inspections had to be deferred, because it was not feasible to complete them on XH558’s airframe. It was planned by VTST and Marshal Aerospace, in agreement with BAE Systems and the Civil Aviation Authority, that these inspections would be carried out before the renewal of XH558’s Permit to Fly on 3rd July 2009, using the airframe of BAE Systems-owned Vulcan XM603 at Woodford, as part of the scrapping process of this aircraft. Unfortunately, despite best intentions, it has not yet proved possible to complete or establish mitigations for all these inspections. Consequently, we have currently not fully met the conditions that would enable the issue of XH558’s Permit to Fly renewal.
XH558 is however is fully serviceable and ready for flight, and Marshall Aerospace together with VTST and BAE Systems are doing all they can as quickly as they can to resolve this unexpected, one-off issue within the next few days. We are very sad that it is not going to be possible for the Vulcan to display at Waddington over the weekend of 4th/5th July.
but what a shame...
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i had an almost bob moment today when the red arrows flew directly over work, i honestly thought the germans were coming........
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i had an almost bob moment today
Oi, that's enough of that kind of talk young lady.
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i had an almost bob moment today
Oi, that's enough of that kind of talk young lady.
I wonder what prompted that response Bob
I (almost ) can't imAgine what made you shudder that way...
he he
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1o min walk to see her in all her glory this pm. bloody brings a tear to ones eye it did!!!
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She was very majestic off of Bournemouth yesterday, obviously being flow very gently, and the throttles just being tickled, but still awsome.
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been busy in house/garden fri/sat hearing her & typhoon comin over, over sun lunch, told misses cant take it any more, left her with shovel in hand, grabbed camera & legged it to front to oggle........
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I think they would be great pics if I could see them on screen.
Can you please reduce the size of them so they are just below full screen size.
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We had a fantastic view of her banking over the New Forest while enjoying a very pleasant pint outside my local. Awesome sight. ;D
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dear championaudi
please please please
open MS paint
then open your pictures in it
then open IMAGE stretch skew
and change 100 % in the top two boxes to 50%
then rename (so you dont lose the great pictures you take in high res) and post the renamed images here
we might be able to see them easily then
the picture of 558 climbing is breathtaking but impossible to see onscreen in one shot
stop the presses
I just tried it with your Vulcan picture at 25% got this
great picture thanks
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oops thanks for info, ill know for next time :'(
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well???
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nice
cool vortexes
thanks
(what reduction did you use for that, please?)
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nice
cool vortexes
thanks
(what reduction did you use for that, please?)
Vortices :police:
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nice
cool vortexes
thanks
(what reduction did you use for that, please?)
Vortices :police:
Don't know what those are, but bloody hell - have you seen the smoke coming out the back of the plane!
Think the big ends have gone ;D
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or vortisexes or vorticii or swirlywrigglywindymoistured doodahs from offa the wingy thingys
WHATEVER! :-[
what reduction did championaudi use for the slightly smaller just the nice size pictures
perlease
:)
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the vulcan will be putting in an appearance at Silverstone on Saturday
Is that with his Italian friend - Sig. Vortices
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i did use 25% but it came out small
tried 40 % now, and a pic for fans of vortices thingys,whatits
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it ad brownee on tut side ;D
only my ageing minolta z5
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40%
seems good to me in 800x600 picthingies
the vorti-gerns look kinda sexy
I dont suppose TVOC fitted smoke dispensers so we can tell wot way up she is did they?
thanks championaudi
bill
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Bill, smokie bits wouldn't help as it is camoed all over, how about fitting a dummy blue steel round, that would get the twitches going
Peter, with your earlier thread re Thought Police in mind, it's slowly becoming abundantly clear that your idea of porn is different from mine!!! ;D ;D
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the vulcan will be putting in an appearance at Silverstone on Saturday
Is that with his Italian friend - Sig. Vortices
are you sure that that they are vortices and not wing condense?
I don't know mate, it's too far away to make it out. Can someone make the picture bigger? ;D
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We decided not to battle in to Bournemouth and went to Lepe Beach instead.
Saw "Sally B" flying o/h around 14:00
Not as loud, but 4 x Wright Cyclone radials make a lovely sound too.
http://www.sallyb.org.uk/index.php
Didn't take any pics as I only had my iPhone to hand and the plane would have looked like a dot in the sky.
Liking the Vulcan picture with wing tip vortices, real "Vulcan pr0n"
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Bill, smokie bits wouldn't help as it is camoed all over, how about fitting a dummy blue steel round, that would get the twitches going
I'd love to see 588 all-over white with pale anti flash roundels etc
and a sodding big BlueSteel hanging under her
Dont think Dr P (Mr TVOC) would like it though
be a sod to keep her clean when shes wet'n'dirty
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She appeared at Shoreham as well. Looked breathtaking as she went over.
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Barring hitches, the Vulcan should be visiting Goodwood next weekend on the 19 and 20th
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XH558 informs us - via Twitter - that her next display is at Goodwood on the 19th at 15:35.
I won't be there - so plenty of pictures/vid please.
Landman
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Walking down the road in Winnersh on Sunday afternoon around 3.30pm when over flies the Vulcan!!!
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Walking down the road in Winnersh on Sunday afternoon around 3.30pm when over flies the Vulcan!!!
It overflew Goodwood at about 3pm, so I would imagine she was on her way to the next display.
http://rupert8766.fotopic.net/p61109597.html
http://http://rupert8766.fotopic.net/p61109593.html
Not the best photos ever, but there you go, can never get the hang of looking upwards and panning without toppling over backwards
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Walking down the road in Winnersh on Sunday afternoon around 3.30pm when over flies the Vulcan!!!
Were the bomb doors open?
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It overflew Goodwood at about 3pm, so I would imagine she was on her way to the next display.
Excellent display put on by the Vulcan at Goodwood on Saturday.
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Walking down the road in Winnersh on Sunday afternoon around 3.30pm when over flies the Vulcan!!!
Were the bomb doors open?
Its ok, It was on the better side of the crossroads :P
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Truley Majestic on Sunday, unfortunatly the races were running about 30 mins late so it had to contend with battling GT250's and E types etc, although not many people were'nt looking skywards though.
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ITV4 just showed a quick shot of the Vulcan flying around Silverstone during the 2nd BTCC race.
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Thanks for letting me know that was the noise that went over my house 10 minutes ago. Couldn't get outside in time to see what it was.